Needles & Grooves

saw Foo Fighters and Red Hot Chili Peppers in high consecration and stopped reading

@dirty hands are you familiar with baseball advanced analytics stats? I think this is study is more for replacement level “coolness” and looking at it that way it makes a lot more sense. Most people are not super into pop culture so you have to speak in very broad terms.

The interesting part of this isn’t necessarily the splits low, medium, and high it’s that there’s a shift in what is important in determining what is now seen as “cool”. In the past, someone may have been considered “cool” if they were super into Jazz or Hip-Hop or Indie Rock but now it’s seen as cool to enjoy a variety styles or genres. Is more important to be a jack of all trades than a master of one.

Anyone that doesn't like AC/DC can't be trusted

For most things I hate the low consecration end but for like horror movies, why are we being picky here? Also, for TV it looks all low consecration to me.

@debianlinux Mad Men? How dare you,

Imagine thinking the Ellen DeGeneres Show is high concept art

And Foo Fighters? They’re medium consecration at best.

burn it to the ground!

re: ellen/oprah - you may not consider them top-tier, but their peers/competition and they most definitely are consistently decent daytime tv that show consideration to guests and audience. Competition: Dr Phil, Geraldo Rivera, Rikki Lake, etc. Like the "...you are not the father!" schticks, "cash me outside howbow dat" etc. Ellen may be a terrible human and boss, but the show's cachet was built on her likeability.

LOL! Everyone’s got too hung up on High/Middle/Low consecration.

This is a really astute observation and I think very much on point.

Tbh the red hot chili peppers placement makes me think of that one scene in the good place

Also conan is/was best talk show host

I also feel like Britney Spears even in the cultural significance or "cool" category is not really low. She deserves more respect and probably should at least have been medium.

@Indymisanthrope i guess I miss the “gatekeeping” portion of it and I am hardly an academic so forgive me if I missed something but the way I am reading it is they let “society” determine what was low/medium/high consecration based on data, I am sure the data would skew more white and wealthy as a whole as society typically holds white/wealthy things in higher regard (from a class/elite standpoint).

The point is that it’s changing and maybe 30 years ago it was deemed “cool” to be into Alternative rock and write off Country or Hip-Hip it is now considered “cool” to have shallow depth across styles and genres.

@Indymisanthrope I get it, you love Paul Blart Mall Cop. That is fine I certainly don’t think any less of ya for it.

I got to give a high five to the individual that got paid for their time spent doing this. They got things figured out in life lmaooo

@Jonathan Y right? I am sure they are not living like Kings as sociologists but their are certainly a hell of a lot worse ways to earn a living.

I think using the Grammys as part of "letting society determine consecration level" is a big miss since it has such a strong reputation of being a popularity contest. think they miss the mark on that metric and their rating is very muddied but also very restricted by limiting everything to pop, which is a very small subset of music. Not choosing bands with higher metacritic ratings but no Grammy makes this apparent.