Holdsworthian
Active Member
Totally get it. This is why I have no preorders in personally. My point is that people on this thread seem to be saying that VMP is going down in flames because of this. I think that's a bit hyperbolic.
Vinyl Me Please (store, exclusives, swaps, etc)
- Thread starter Captainfog
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jamieanderson1968
ninniest jackaninny
bdrummond
Well-Known Member
It may be.
But this whole model kind of relies upon trust.
Trust to subscribe to a 12/6/3 month membership. Or trust that that expensive boxset preorder is actually going to show up at your doorstep. Trust that the product you're getting is going to be high quality.
That trust is definitely eroding. Will it sink them? Only time will tell, but my trust was cracked with the delays, and now broken to the point of cancellation because I have no idea WHEN I'm getting that product, let alone if.
TenderLovingKiller®
Well-Known Member
If you’re comparing it with Discord then sure. Compared to here, Reddit is still fairly pro-VMP.
TenderLovingKiller®
Well-Known Member
I don’t think anyone is saying that VMP is going down in flames necessarily. Just that their business practices seem, at best sloppy, at worst unscrupulous and if, as a record collecting community, we are semi invested in the company through memberships and preorders then we might want to move with caution for the time being until there is a clearer picture of what’s going on.
serotonein
Well-Known Member
I don't have Pacer so can't get the details, but it looks like the case is still moving along; next hearing on 12Jun
Berenson v. Offbeat Ventures, LLC et al (1:22-cv-06454), New York Eastern District Court
Berenson v. Offbeat Ventures, LLC et al (1:22-cv-06454), New York Eastern District Court, Filed: 10/24/2022
www.pacermonitor.com
It would appear that the defendants managed to waste a year trying to get a change in venue, I presume to Denver, but it ultimately failed
jamieanderson1968
ninniest jackaninny
Not that they are directly connected but the timing of AB being fired and Cam supposedly getting to the VMP Board to agree to his resolution is interesting: both happened in early November 2021
duke86fan
Well-Known Member
they wont announce where they're moving the plant because they dont wanna have to make an update to the update... but they are doing a Q&A on the discord about it with the staff
avecigrec
Well-Known Member
...which will, naturally, be the update, leaving all their non-members in the dark. Again. (And again.) ((And again.))
David A.
Well-Known Member
to be fair, you could just join the discord. It’s a mess at times with the shit posting but it’s not a hermetic experience. Everyone is welcome though.
avecigrec
Well-Known Member
to be fair, I don't want to. And, more importantly, shouldn't have to.
They send out enough unimportant emails to all their members, they should take a moment to send the important ones too. Discord should not be the be all end all of their customer communication. But seems to have become so for anything other than advertising.
[Edit: spelling]
David A.
Well-Known Member
I mean, the discord is their way to rile up hype for pre orders and shoot the shit.
And, theoretically, they don’t have to tell you all of their plans either. It’s the name of the game with VMP. It’s just part of the game that I’ve grown to accept, though. I’m sure it’s more frustrating for other subscribers.
But I use discord for other channels anyhow so it doesn’t personally bother me to keep up with their discord.
MikeH
Well-Known Member
yea they need to be better about communication. It’s only been 10 years so far and they still haven’t figured out some of this stuff hah.
With that said, I’d wager most people don’t even know about this suit and they are waiting to sort out where the stuff will be pressed now.
Interestingly the complaint seems to say that their relationship with other pressing plants has been ruined as a result of VMPressing. Maybe they just mean QRP since they poached Gary?
avecigrec
Well-Known Member
I hear you on this, but they've lost that benefit of the doubt from me. The fact that they oversell tracks without notifying customers unless said customers inquire about their orders (*in some exceptions they have, but not all); when they ran out of a bonus item for the Dolly track it would have been easy to send out a note saying, "hey y'all, some of you are gonna receive your stuff late because of this," instead of leaving people to wonder where the hell the order was (also how do you run out of the bonus thing on a limited track with a set number?!); Or when there's a pressing-wide issue and replacement copies are going to be sent but they don't let people know... it's beyond ridiculous!
I'm not angry, it's just exasperating watching them walk into the same sliding glass door over and over again.
And I don't hate VMP, I just have very little confidence in them when it comes to things like communication and logistics.
Which is a damn shame, because 10 years should be long enough to figure that shit out!
Mather
Unknown Member
Paulie is good people.
avecigrec
Well-Known Member
Hemotep
Well-Known Member
Being young doesn't make him bad. Just surprised by that baby-face.