Definitive Audiophile pressings

That's how I pronounce it but I have zero clue if it's correct.
I use the translation - 'recycle bin item'.

An obi strip on a record, also very common on other consumer products, is only useful to the Japanese market and serves 3 purposes: as a price tag (given that prices in Japan are established by the manufacturer), a Japanese translation of the title, artist, tracks and maybe personnel or a promo blurb, and often on the reverse advertising for other records on the label in the same release week/batch.

So basically, it is a glorified price tag. Back in the day, most would do as intended - rip it off, it obscures the cover art.

Not all Japanese collectors did so, though, as some wanted or needed that Japanese translation. So there are quite a few on vintage records still around.

An obi has really no value. Maybe it is a status symbol to some collectors. Maybe some retain it for the same reason they peel off hype stickers to save. Or it might be some weird 'I'm very cool because I have this whole japanese culture thing going' association.

There a very few that are really collectible, such as the Atlantic Rock of Ages obi.

Today, in our Discogs value driven collector age, it is kept primarily because one day, some stupid Gaijin will pay more if it is on the cover.
 
I use the translation - 'recycle bin item'.

An obi strip on a record, also very common on other consumer products, is only useful to the Japanese market and serves 3 purposes: as a price tag (given that prices in Japan are established by the manufacturer), a Japanese translation of the title, artist, tracks and maybe personnel or a promo blurb, and often on the reverse advertising for other records on the label in the same release week/batch.

So basically, it is a glorified price tag. Back in the day, most would do as intended - rip it off, it obscures the cover art.

Not all Japanese collectors did so, though, as some wanted or needed that Japanese translation. So there are quite a few on vintage records still around.

An obi has really no value. Maybe it is a status symbol to some collectors. Maybe some retain it for the same reason they peel off hype stickers to save. Or it might be some weird 'I'm very cool because I have this whole japanese culture thing going' association.

There a very few that are really collectible, such as the Atlantic Rock of Ages obi.

Today, in our Discogs value driven collector age, it is kept primarily because one day, some stupid Gaijin will pay more if it is on the cover.
For me, the aesthetic the graphic design elements of hype stickers and obis are appealing and that they are ephemeral, designed to be torn off and discarded; that the idea of saving them and getting to enjoy that element years from now speaks to my fondness for nostalgia.
 
In other news for those that care, I picked up that Costello "This Years Model" RKS 2021 Euro press and it's decent. It's a little flat and compressed sounding to me but having never heard an original pressing I'm not sure how different it is. I did stream the original master vs the 2021 and I preferred the original master. I think they upped the bass and punch on the 21 but the extension on the highs is kinda gone. Anyhow it's clean and for $35 it's pretty good. Pretty certain the EU is pressed at Record Industry.
 
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For me, the aesthetic the graphic design elements of hype stickers and obis are appealing and that they are ephemeral, designed to be torn off and discarded; that the idea of saving them and getting to enjoy that element years from now speaks to my fondness for nostalgia.
Yeah, I enjoy the aesthetic of a good obi. Especially when they use colors to design it to match the album cover art. To me, it's an additional piece of art and information. Not just a throwaway. But to each their own though. I always save an obi.
 
Yeah, I enjoy the aesthetic of a good obi. Especially when they use colors to design it to match the album cover art. To me, it's an additional piece of art and information. Not just a throwaway. But to each their own though. I always save an obi.
On cue, these five showed up from Japan while I was gone this weekend. The Sardaby and Weston are both OG French presses, so never had an obi.

I seek JP releases without an obi bc the JP sellers put a solid price premium on them, and I’m in the “I don’t care” camp. Only one of the three JP releases here came with an obi (Davis/Hanna/Waits), and I gently pulled it off and tucked it onto the outer sleeve.

So far so good with Heavy Sounds first on the TT.
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On cue, these five showed up from Japan while I was gone this weekend. The Sardaby and Weston are both OG French presses, so never had an obi.

I seek JP releases without an obi bc the JP sellers put a solid price premium on them, and I’m in the “I don’t care” camp. Only one of the three JP releases here came with an obi (Davis/Hanna/Waits), and I gently pulled it off and tucked it onto the outer sleeve.

So far so good with Heavy Sounds first on the TT.
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Just a heads up that this Davis/Hanna/Waits ”Persia My Dear” was recorded in Tokyo and distributed by Disk Union, and it shows. The sound is stunning. And the music, which I couldn’t find online, so this was bought ”sight unseen,” is fantastic. Trust me, especially if you like Richard Davis using the bow on bass, buy this without reservation. It’s killer.
 
Please reply if you have insight about quality of French pressings from 60s/70s, particularly something like this Night Cap by Michel Sardaby on Disques Debs in 1970, with repress in 1975. There are also a couple Japanese options for this if that’s the best direction. Thank you.
Quick follow up bc I didn’t get any replies about pressing/sound quality of Disques Debs releases. As seen in the photo of my purchase above, I bought the 1975 Disques Debs repress Michel Sardaby Trio “Night Cap” (a “French press” — :cool:), and it’s phenomenal (recording, pressing, and music). Wanted to add this reply in case a N&G member is curious about Disques Debs in the future.

Edit: While we’re on the subject of French presses, and in stark contrast, the other 1975 French press in my order is by Owl Records (Randy Weston “African Nite”). Visually, it’s pristine and looks like it should be silent, but it’s not. Sounds like recycled vinyl or something like that. A layer of noise throughout. It’s definitely a nice album musically, and the recording itself is good. This is my only Owl Records release, so maybe it’s not representative, but that’s the deal w this one.
 
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On cue, these five showed up from Japan while I was gone this weekend. The Sardaby and Weston are both OG French presses, so never had an obi.

I seek JP releases without an obi bc the JP sellers put a solid price premium on them, and I’m in the “I don’t care” camp. Only one of the three JP releases here came with an obi (Davis/Hanna/Waits), and I gently pulled it off and tucked it onto the outer sleeve.

So far so good with Heavy Sounds first on the TT.
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that Elvin Jones + Richard Davis is probably a top 5 jazz record for me. It's fantastic.
 
Now. Question, this thing comes with one of those scary plastic thick deluxe outer sleeve things that GENERALLY have been known to cause off gassing. It's been sitting in it since 1999. Looks fine, do I store that sleeve separately. Or do I figure it's been in there for 20+ years so screw it, it's fine.
 
Now. Question, this thing comes with one of those scary plastic thick deluxe outer sleeve things that GENERALLY have been known to cause off gassing. It's been sitting in it since 1999. Looks fine, do I store that sleeve separately. Or do I figure it's been in there for 20+ years so screw it, it's fine.
Burn it (I’m sure the fumes will be useful in the murder dungeon)
 
Now. Question, this thing comes with one of those scary plastic thick deluxe outer sleeve things that GENERALLY have been known to cause off gassing. It's been sitting in it since 1999. Looks fine, do I store that sleeve separately. Or do I figure it's been in there for 20+ years so screw it, it's fine.
Why chance it? Peel off the sticker and keep it in a safe outer sleeve.
 
Why chance it? Peel off the sticker and keep it in a safe outer sleeve.
There is zero chance this sticker is going anywhere. I don't think there's any chance I can get it off of there.

Side note, this is the EMI100 1999 all analogue pressing* and it's REALLY good. It skews slightly bright but in a good way, much more open and detailed than I'm used to with Bowie. Definitely highly recommend this pressing.

*Or whatever "analogue cutting from analogue tapes" means in nebulous marketing speak. That's what's on the hype sticker.
 
Now. Question, this thing comes with one of those scary plastic thick deluxe outer sleeve things that GENERALLY have been known to cause off gassing. It's been sitting in it since 1999. Looks fine, do I store that sleeve separately. Or do I figure it's been in there for 20+ years so screw it, it's fine.
Simply vinyl has similar jackets. I just store them in a drawer on their own.

Also I love the EMI100 releases. after a certain catalogue number they were AAA. We’re digital prior to that (forget which LPCENT number was the first confirmed AAA).
 
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