Cables - one of the most taboo subjects in audio

Angsty said:
The coax from your cable provider probably ran about 100 ft to your cable box. It works.
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No no I'm talking about 4K HDR sent 35+ feet from the AVR to the projector. This isn't actually up for debate, you will lose signal above that length and may be unable to display 60 HZ 4K HDR without fibre HDMI or a signal booster. It's an actual fact, and I've witnessed it at my own house. 2.1 HDMI may be better, but if it's 2.0 and that length, you gotta go fibre HDMI to be safe.
 
Mather said:
No no I'm talking about 4K HDR sent 35+ feet from the AVR to the projector. This isn't actually up for debate, you will lose signal above that length and may be unable to display 60 HZ 4K HDR without fibre HDMI or a signal booster. It's an actual fact, and I've witnessed it at my own house. 2.1 HDMI may be better, but if it's 2.0 and that length, you gotta go fibre HDMI to be safe.
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I took advantage of a mishap with a burst pipe to run a shorter hdmi line to my pj for just this reason. At 50’, even with fibre, I was getting sporadic issues (sparkles, dropped signal, etc) unless I either switched to 1080P or just got lucky.
 
SnowmaNick said:
I took advantage of a mishap with a burst pipe to run a shorter hdmi line to my pj for just this reason. At 50’, even with fibre, I was getting sporadic issues (sparkles, dropped signal, etc) unless I either switched to 1080P or just got lucky.
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Yeah I do wonder if 2.1 may avoid this issue since the transfer rate is so much higher. But I don't have a complete 2.1 setup anywhere in my house.
 
@Mather - I like fiber. I once worked for Corning. I switched to Google Fiber. 30 feet max of HDMI cable for 4K seems reasonable; longer should be fiber.

But, you see, I was talking about 100 feet of cable TV coax. I’m mastering the art of talking off-topic in threads tonight, like I did inadvertently on the Phono Cartridge thread.

Nonetheless, you’re probably right.
 
Angsty said:
@Mather - I like fiber. I once worked for Corning. I switched to Google Fiber. 30 feet max of HDMI cable for 4K seems reasonable; longer should be fiber.

But, you see, I was talking about 100 feet of cable TV coax. I’m mastering the art of talking off-topic in threads tonight, like I did inadvertently on the Phono Cartridge thread.

Nonetheless, you’re probably right.
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Coax 1080 you can run forever. But when you reach 4k HDR I'm not actually sure about that. I don't think coax can even do HDR.
 
Quick cable experiment update, going deeper into the speculative world of power cables. I currently have an Audioquest hurricane on my dac, and I decided I should try it on my Sutherland 20/20 LPS.
This was a good news/bad news outcome, speaking from terms of my wallet.

The bad news is this swap did make a difference. The biggest difference was everything was a little bigger and instrument separation was a little better.

The good news is that this was very close. More so than other cable swaps I've made, and certainly closer than adding the LPS. I will likely still make the cable upgrade at some point, but I'll be chasing other dragons. This will require the stars to align with a solid deal, money in the audio account, and having no other equipment that I'm honed in on adding. It's really getting to the point of squeezing out the last drop of existing equipment, and it only makes sense in my mind specific case when the jump up to the next level is a larger jump than I'm willing to make.

As a matter of fact, that's been a lot of this cable journey. Next level up in amp might be $4-5k+, so a cable upgrade for far less helps me sit pretty for awhile.

But in the mean time, I've got a new cartridge on deck, a new rack in the plans, probably a new streamer/DAC in there, and then I could start making the climb to new analog components.
 
displayname said:
Quick cable experiment update, going deeper into the speculative world of power cables. I currently have an Audioquest hurricane on my dac, and I decided I should try it on my Sutherland 20/20 LPS.
This was a good news/bad news outcome, speaking from terms of my wallet.

The bad news is this swap did make a difference. The biggest difference was everything was a little bigger and instrument separation was a little better.

The good news is that this was very close. More so than other cable swaps I've made, and certainly closer than adding the LPS. I will likely still make the cable upgrade at some point, but I'll be chasing other dragons. This will require the stars to align with a solid deal, money in the audio account, and having no other equipment that I'm honed in on adding. It's really getting to the point of squeezing out the last drop of existing equipment, and it only makes sense in my mind specific case when the jump up to the next level is a larger jump than I'm willing to make.

As a matter of fact, that's been a lot of this cable journey. Next level up in amp might be $4-5k+, so a cable upgrade for far less helps me sit pretty for awhile.

But in the mean time, I've got a new cartridge on deck, a new rack in the plans, probably a new streamer/DAC in there, and then I could start making the climb to new analog components.
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Glad I’m not the only one with endless gear rotation syndrome. 😂
 
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