Definitive Audiophile pressings

So then my question is, do they go back and scratch out the 2 and make it a 3 if they decide to use the shelved mother? I personally don't remember having noticed that. If they don't, then I guess it is hard to be sure if your vinyl is pressed from the father or the stampers made from the mother.
 
MikeH said:
And I get what you mean about it being weird that they may use the mother later, but that's when I think that number in the run out would change. So once they get past, say, 11,000 copies pressed, that number might change from a 2 to a 3 if they are using that same mastering.
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Have you ever seen that scratched out? I don't think I have, but I'll be on the lookout as I may have thought nothing of it in the past!
 
MikeH said:
And I get what you mean about it being weird that they may use the mother later, but that's when I think that number in the run out would change. So once they get past, say, 11,000 copies pressed, that number might change from a 2 to a 3 if they are using that same mastering.
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I wonder what the relative loss of detail between a 1 and 2 is then seeing as both are in effect pressed from the first transfer from the lacquer.

Also surely only 1,000 can be 2 becuase the next 10,000 are from the stampers from the one mother made? Then you’d have to go and have a new lacquer cut for a fresh father?
 
dhodo said:
Have you ever seen that scratched out? I don't think I have, but I'll be on the lookout as I may have thought nothing of it in the past!
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I would have to go back and look at some that are from RTI and have scratched out numbers, but that would be my guess--if they don't recut laquers, they would just cross it out from that mother. I just think it's probably uncommon because most places would probably have an idea of how many pressings they are doing, and it's probably unlikely that many do that 2 step process unless it's going to be a pretty limited album.
 
Joe Mac said:
so it’s likely the first 1,000 were pressed from the repurposed father and the next 5,000 from the stampers made from the one mother cut. I wonder if they changed those 5,000 from a (2) to a (3) 🤔
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🤷‍♂️ ... mine has a (2) and the Discogs entry only lists the etching ending with (2).

Sounds fantastic though.
 
Joe Mac said:
Honestly 99.99% of records including loads of our beloved audiophile ones are the standard 3 step method so I’m not surprised either way, just more interested from a transparency point of view lol.
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To add complexity, the Pearl Jam record I'm referencing also had an exclusive red pressing for the Ten Club, and that has the exact same run-out numbers according to Discogs. Maybe with that process you can't tell the difference if it was the father that was used or if a new stamper was made from the "back-up"? Unless new lacquers are being prepared, but I doubt it...
 
Turbo said:
To add complexity, the Pearl Jam record I'm referencing also had an exclusive red pressing for the Ten Club, and that has the exact same run-out numbers according to Discogs. Maybe with that process you can't tell the difference if it was the father that was used or if a new stamper was made from the "back-up"? Unless new lacquers are being prepared, but I doubt it...
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The first mother is logically likely to have had the least generational loss so I suppose. It does all feel a little deceptive though lol.
 
Joe Mac said:
The first mother is logically likely to have had the least generational loss so I suppose. It does all feel a little deceptive though lol.
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I'm learning on the fly here, but there seem to be other processing differences with the electroplating, to be fair (compared to 3-step). The traditional 3-step may produce better stampers in the end and it doesn't seem like the two-step can be used to make 180g vinyl. The two-step seems quicker but can only be used for short runs, and only a limited amount of mothers can be prepared.
 
This Adrianne Lenker album sounds fantastic....for some songs. I wish the pressing was better though! Some songs sound amazing and others just have noise on them. It's a shame to go through the trouble of recording an AAA album and then getting a mediocre pressing of it made! I gotta give it another clean and hopefully that cleans it up. It's such an intimate recording.
 
Selaws said:
Waxtime are grey market releases that make use of European legal public domain releases. Essentially they use CD sources and no money goes to the label or artist/artists estate.

Must be a fantastic comparison though, I'm not surprised the Craft blew it away!
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Makes sense. This is the only Waxtime I’ve grabbed. Assumed by the price that it was going to be pretty meh, but if it’s sourced from a CD, it came out pretty decent. Definitely didn’t compel me to buy any others.
 
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