LeeVing
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exactly....it makes no sense to not use the actual color.
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exactly....it makes no sense to not use the actual color.
LeeVing
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I have a merge request for all that can vote -
This sub began as the US release. The UK Dinked edition was discovered to be the same (only with a sticker and bundled art print that don't make it unique) and merged into it - then came the Series tag for that release.
While I agree that It is confusing that the US release have the Dinked Series - but it was decided that a sticker and art print can make a series - Discogs Forum - Dinked Edition
Once merged a note can be added to better explain the combination of the US and UK releases in the same sub.
This sub began as the US release. The UK Dinked edition was discovered to be the same (only with a sticker and bundled art print that don't make it unique) and merged into it - then came the Series tag for that release.
While I agree that It is confusing that the US release have the Dinked Series - but it was decided that a sticker and art print can make a series - Discogs Forum - Dinked Edition
Once merged a note can be added to better explain the combination of the US and UK releases in the same sub.
GentleSenator
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i think the issue that most folks have is the emotionally driven lack of distinction between discogs as a database that belongs to everyone in order to collect all factual information about a release and not a place to tweak to your liking in order to display your collection or items for sale the way you see fit.
Ethos99
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I usually put both if possible, (i.e. Swirly Silver (Light grey) ) if the color is that far off. That way both marketed color and real are there.
dbarila
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I would think it would be more appropriate to put the actual color in the Free text (so someone with a copy in hand can find the correct entry) and put something in notes for how it was marketed. I don't know what the actual guidelines say.
LeeVing
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Usually it's the actual color in the FTF - if there is some "fancy", as the forum thread calls it, name for the coloring it goes in [brackets].
This has more to do with wording that means a color, but really isn't a color - they seem to be fruits like Pumpkin for orange, Lime for green, Strawberry for red, but also things like variant names like "Zombie Skin"
If the marketing color is close enough to the actual coloring, I don't mind - but "Purple Splash" is not accurate when the actual color is Purple and Green.
I can say that the gimmicky nature of colored variants and the naming they come up with has made what goes into the FTF a bit more difficult in the last few years.
dbarila
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What's the guideline for things like "Transparent....". Like the War on Drugs live album has a "Transparent green" and "transparent purple" entry but on the Master List they show up the same.Usually it's the actual color in the FTF - if there is some "fancy", as the forum thread calls it, name for the coloring it goes in [brackets].
This has more to do with wording that means a color, but really isn't a color - they seem to be fruits like Pumpkin for orange, Lime for green, Strawberry for red, but also things like variant names like "Zombie Skin"
If the marketing color is close enough to the actual coloring, I don't mind - but "Purple Splash" is not accurate when the actual color is Purple and Green.
LeeVing
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LeeVing
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I don't have this to verify, but you may want to look to see if The War On Drugs - Live Drugs
and The War On Drugs - Live Drugs aren't actually the same release.
Different sticker barcodes are not a unique trait to have 2 separate submissions.
Although I do see one is marketed as Transparent and the other opaque....since in this case the differentiation between the Transparent Purple and Opaque Purple is in fact "Transparent" and "Opaque" - those should then be what is first in the FTF.
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dbarila
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I saw that. But I have the green version so I'm not exactly sure.
LeeVing
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Unless there is an Opaque Green, "green" should be first.
The purple is different as there are 2 different versions of it.
LeeVing
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I've had to EI this guy twice now for removing the reissue tag on this release...
www.discogs.com
As can be seen in the sub edit, the reissue tag has already been argued and discussed in the forum...but neither of this points are good enough for this guy.
Looking at his submissions it seems they only submit Monkees related releases.
The Monkees - Christmas Party
View credits, reviews, tracks and shop for the 2019 Vinyl release of "Christmas Party" on Discogs.
www.discogs.com
As can be seen in the sub edit, the reissue tag has already been argued and discussed in the forum...but neither of this points are good enough for this guy.
Looking at his submissions it seems they only submit Monkees related releases.
LeeVing
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Concurrently having issues with someone again not understanding the remaster tag...
GentleSenator
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I've had to EI this guy twice now for removing the reissue tag on this release...
The Monkees - Christmas Party
View credits, reviews, tracks and shop for the 2019 Vinyl release of "Christmas Party" on Discogs.
As can be seen in the sub edit, the reissue tag has already been argued and discussed in the forum...but neither of this points are good enough for this guy.
Looking at his submissions it seems they only submit Monkees related releases.
you're like a magnet for these guys...
LeeVing
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I'm trying to understand where they are coming from, but I just can't on this one. The CD was released in 2018...the vinyl releases were released a year later in 2019.
LeeVing
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Concurrently having issues with someone again not understanding the remaster tag...
this guy is still at it...
I get the technicalities of "newly mastered" and newly cut can imply a re-mastering - but this isn't how Discogs uses the tag...if it was then all new cuts would get a Remastered tag - and we don't tag that way.
see the latest edit discussion- am i being unreasonable here?
www.discogs.com
Pink Floyd - 1965 (Their First Recordings)
View credits, reviews, tracks and shop for the 2015 Vinyl release of "1965 (Their First Recordings)" on Discogs.
www.discogs.com
GentleSenator
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this guy is still at it...
I get the technicalities of "newly mastered" and newly cut can imply a re-mastering - but this isn't how Discogs uses the tag...if it was then all new cuts would get a Remastered tag - and we don't tag that way.
this is what makes it all so fun.
GentleSenator
Active Member
see the latest edit discussion- am i being unreasonable here?
Pink Floyd - 1965 (Their First Recordings)
View credits, reviews, tracks and shop for the 2015 Vinyl release of "1965 (Their First Recordings)" on Discogs.
seems like a good discussion to be had in the forum. i fundamentally agree with your point that data should not be changed without something to go on. that's pretty well-established on discogs.