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Have you considered the Grado Gold2? I much prefer the sound of the Grado, I swapped from the Ortofon to it. Also if you are determined to go Ortofon the blue is a much better cart than the red and well worth more than the difference in price.

An external phono stage will be a step up from the one built into that table but sadly unless you are electronically capable enough to physically remove the lp120s phono stage it still colours and muddies the sound even when turned off...

I’ll second that Grado Suggestion. I haven’t tried out a Gold yet, but I have a Grado Red I think or Black and it’s better than tha Ortofon I had on my PLX-1000. When I ordered my Technics 1200–G and my Grado Red, They messed up ordering the 1200-G so they upgraded my Grado for free which is why I forget which one it is now.
 
I’ve seen them in plenty of apartments and condos. Only once in a sfr though, and I don’t think that one was to code. Creepy ass house in Seattle we looked at.
Yeah, that’s a fair point. Of course the way those are built is more inline with large commercial construction than what I think of when it comes to residential which skews more towards single family homes or duplexes.
 
Quick question- can I use this cartridge alignment guide on my U-Turn Orbit old-style arm with a Grado Black 2 cartridge?


I ask because I don’t have a working printer but I have this PDF printed out from a while back when I set up an LP120. I threw away the sheet I used to previously set up my Orbit.

No you can't. The effective arm length and arm pivot to spindle distance differ between the two turntables.
 
Hi @HiFi Guy and @everyone!

Hope you are all doing well today. Since HFG helped me put together my new system last year I have been in musical bliss! I’ve been listening to some amazing records (and digital) and am so happy with my set up. However, even at the time we knew that the weak link in my chain was the UTurn TT. It isn’t bad, just comparatively it really doesn’t hold up to the rest of the components.

Well, a year later, the time has come. I’m ready to jump into a new table after my discussion with @NoToneStraw last night. So I’m looking for recs from you all and specifically from @HiFi Guy because he knows the synchronicity if my system. I’m looking for a good TT in the 2-3K range though my budget is flexible if we find the right TT. Currently my system goes like this:
Nagaoka 110>UTurn>Sutherland Insight>PS Audio Gain Cell DAC>PS Audio S300>Sonos Fabre Olympica II speakers.

I’ve been looking at the Music Hall MMF-9, The VPI Super Prime Scout, and the MoFi Ultratracker. But I’m open to all thoughts and opinions. Thank you all in advance!
 
Hi @HiFi Guy and @everyone!

Hope you are all doing well today. Since HFG helped me put together my new system last year I have been in musical bliss! I’ve been listening to some amazing records (and digital) and am so happy with my set up. However, even at the time we knew that the weak link in my chain was the UTurn TT. It isn’t bad, just comparatively it really doesn’t hold up to the rest of the components.

Well, a year later, the time has come. I’m ready to jump into a new table after my discussion with @NoToneStraw last night. So I’m looking for recs from you all and specifically from @HiFi Guy because he knows the synchronicity if my system. I’m looking for a good TT in the 2-3K range though my budget is flexible if we find the right TT. Currently my system goes like this:
Nagaoka 110>UTurn>Sutherland Insight>PS Audio Gain Cell DAC>PS Audio S300>Sonos Fabre Olympica II speakers.

I’ve been looking at the Music Hall MMF-9, The VPI Super Prime Scout, and the MoFi Ultratracker. But I’m open to all thoughts and opinions. Thank you all in advance!
Exciting times!! Funny that I had the same 3 on my short list when looking to upgrade from the Orbit and then it ended up being a two table race with the VPI & MoFi. I would recommend the MoFi of course because that's what I went with and couldn't be happier. That being said, with @HiFi Guy knowing your system a little better is a big help, but with that budget and the tables you listed, you're gonna be happy with the end result no matter what ;)

Enjoy!
 
Exciting times!! Funny that I had the same 3 on my short list when looking to upgrade from the Orbit and then it ended up being a two table race with the VPI & MoFi. I would recommend the MoFi of course because that's what I went with and couldn't be happier. That being said, with @HiFi Guy knowing your system a little better is a big help, but with that budget and the tables you listed, you're gonna be happy with the end result no matter what ;)

Enjoy!
Excellent! Thank you for weighing in. I know your system is also very tight and I’ve been eyeing your MoFi for the better part of a year. Lol

I agree with you, I will be pretty happy no matter which route I go. I’m trying to be thoughtful as I don’t plan on making any Herculean updates to my system for a few years after this (cart not withstanding). Well, unless some amazing deal comes along.
 
Excellent! Thank you for weighing in. I know your system is also very tight and I’ve been eyeing your MoFi for the better part of a year. Lol

I agree with you, I will be pretty happy no matter which route I go. I’m trying to be thoughtful as I don’t plan on making any Herculean updates to my system for a few years after this (cart not withstanding). Well, unless some amazing deal comes along.
I think the decks you have on your list are all pretty solid, your budget puts you in a good place and in that category/budget, a little personal taste will start to factor in in terms of aesthetic. Nothing against the other two tables, but I liked the clean lines of the MoFi, while I'm not sure what the arm length on the MH is, the Socut is 9" and one of the pluses, in my opinion, of the MoFi is that 10" arm. Then the dampening on the UD is great and I'm sure the triple plinth of the MH is no slouch So there is a little give and take, but as I said, I'm sure you'll be happy with any.........barring any last minute entry by @HiFi Guy ;)
 
I think the decks you have on your list are all pretty solid, your budget puts you in a good place and in that category/budget, a little personal taste will start to factor in in terms of aesthetic. Nothing against the other two tables, but I liked the clean lines of the MoFi, while I'm not sure what the arm length on the MH is, the Socut is 9" and one of the pluses, in my opinion, of the MoFi is that 10" arm. Then the dampening on the UD is great and I'm sure the triple plinth of the MH is no slouch So there is a little give and take, but as I said, I'm sure you'll be happy with any.........barring any last minute entry by @HiFi Guy ;)
I’m searching for sales/deals/open box specials on all three tables and ran across this. Seems to be a very good price for a less than year old TT

 
Hi @HiFi Guy and @everyone!

Hope you are all doing well today. Since HFG helped me put together my new system last year I have been in musical bliss! I’ve been listening to some amazing records (and digital) and am so happy with my set up. However, even at the time we knew that the weak link in my chain was the UTurn TT. It isn’t bad, just comparatively it really doesn’t hold up to the rest of the components.

Well, a year later, the time has come. I’m ready to jump into a new table after my discussion with @NoToneStraw last night. So I’m looking for recs from you all and specifically from @HiFi Guy because he knows the synchronicity if my system. I’m looking for a good TT in the 2-3K range though my budget is flexible if we find the right TT. Currently my system goes like this:
Nagaoka 110>UTurn>Sutherland Insight>PS Audio Gain Cell DAC>PS Audio S300>Sonos Fabre Olympica II speakers.

I’ve been looking at the Music Hall MMF-9, The VPI Super Prime Scout, and the MoFi Ultratracker. But I’m open to all thoughts and opinions. Thank you all in advance!
FWIW, I was leaning towards that VPI before I found the deal on my Pro-Ject. But as you said, I don't think you can go wrong at that price range.
 
I’m searching for sales/deals/open box specials on all three tables and ran across this. Seems to be a very good price for a less than year old TT


That's a tough call. I love my Ultradeck. But I will say the only other turntable out there on the market that I'd want in the price range if I were in the market would be the VPI Prime Scout, which is a dealer exclusive from Upscale Audio. Kevin Deal is good to work with if you don't want preowned. He also sells the MoFi.

Keep in mind, most of us got our MoFis before the price increase. The better arm and platter on the MoFi is enough for me to knock the Music Hall from consideration.

The down side to the VPI (or maybe not depending on you) Is that the VPI does not come with a dust cover and they are expensive-a few hundred dollars.

Two big upsides to the VPI- the Prime Scout has a 10.5" arm for even lower tracking error than the MoFi, which has lower tracking error than the Music Hall. The arm is a unipivot, which is a bit weird to get used to- it moves on a single point at the rear and will wobble side to side until it stabilizes. The great point of this is that mounting cartridges is a breeze- you unplug the arm wand and can literally remove it and take to wherever you want to install the cartridge, another room for better lighting for instance. You can even buy an additional arm wand so you could have a mono cartridge and stereo cartridge on its own wand- but this is expensive. The really cool thing though is once you have the cartridges set up, you could switch arm wands in 30 seconds.

It comes down to how far down the rabbit hole you want to go. Also @SnowmaNick has a Prime Scout. Maybe he will chime in.

I do have an idea as far as cartridges either way. Don't get the MoFi with the MoFi cartridge unless it's the Master Tracker.
 
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