Gotta warp, these members can help. [Vinyl Flat]

folsom_lives said:
I can appreciate your pursuit of perfection here but I'd wager my collection that if you closed your eyes you couldn't tell these records from flattened ones sound wise.

My suggestion is sit back and try to enjoy the music and not chase the gremlins so much. You'll enjoy the hobby much more.
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Or buy a clamp/weight. That eliminates like 99% of minor warps.
 
Fixxman32 said:
Fine, just curious. I have not had a record with variant of edgewarp. :)
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Honestly look at your tonearm. It barely registers it. Vinyl is an imperfect medium with many constraints, none more so than it being a physical product that will have some degree of manufacturing tolerance. Tonearms and cartridge styli and cantilevers are built with that in mind. So long as your tonearm doesn’t look like it’s a 2022 Mercedes’ F1 car on a straight and the stylus is tracking fine it’s going to be fine.
 
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Fixxman32 said:
Fine, just curious. I have not had a record with variant of edgewarp. :)
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As the guy on the forum who owns a Furutech I'll pop my head in here quickly with my two cents.
Firstly yeah I wouldn't worry about the warps you're posting. They're all very very small, in at least one case I couldn't even see any movement. So no, I wouldn't worry about those damaging your cart or anything like that.
Secondly, could a Furutech fix those? Perhaps, I can't say 100% because every warp is different and some that seem easy don't ever come out, and some that seem impossible come out perfectly flat. It's a bit of a lottery. But the thing with colored vinyl and even some black vinyl types, it may flatten it but the record may also come out egg shaped. Colored vinyl has different melting points and it's just as possible that you destroy the record trying to remove a miniscule warp as it is that you get a perfectly flat record in the end. So it's a gamble. I suspect some companies are using inferior black vinyl these days too as I've had a couple black vinyl pressings melt on even the lowest setting.
If those are the worst warps you get I'm truly jealous. Here's just a quick little sampling of the stuff I get, and why I bought a Furutech in the first place. And just to be clear, there are like, hundreds more of these gifs, on my phone, right now...

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I need a drink.
 
Mather said:
As the guy on the forum who owns a Furutech I'll pop my head in here quickly with my two cents.
Firstly yeah I wouldn't worry about the warps you're posting. They're all very very small, in at least one case I couldn't even see any movement. So no, I wouldn't worry about those damaging your cart or anything like that.
Secondly, could a Furutech fix those? Perhaps, I can't say 100% because every warp is different and some that seem easy don't ever come out, and some that seem impossible come out perfectly flat. It's a bit of a lottery. But the thing with colored vinyl and even some black vinyl types, it may flatten it but the record may also come out egg shaped. Colored vinyl has different melting points and it's just as possible that you destroy the record trying to remove a miniscule warp as it is that you get a perfectly flat record in the end. So it's a gamble. I suspect some companies are using inferior black vinyl these days too as I've had a couple black vinyl pressings melt on even the lowest setting.
If those are the worst warps you get I'm truly jealous. Here's just a quick little sampling of the stuff I get, and why I bought a Furutech in the first place. And just to be clear, there are like, hundreds more of these gifs, on my phone, right now...

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I need a drink.
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This guy warps !
 
Mather said:
As the guy on the forum who owns a Furutech I'll pop my head in here quickly with my two cents.
Firstly yeah I wouldn't worry about the warps you're posting. They're all very very small, in at least one case I couldn't even see any movement. So no, I wouldn't worry about those damaging your cart or anything like that.
Secondly, could a Furutech fix those? Perhaps, I can't say 100% because every warp is different and some that seem easy don't ever come out, and some that seem impossible come out perfectly flat. It's a bit of a lottery. But the thing with colored vinyl and even some black vinyl types, it may flatten it but the record may also come out egg shaped. Colored vinyl has different melting points and it's just as possible that you destroy the record trying to remove a miniscule warp as it is that you get a perfectly flat record in the end. So it's a gamble. I suspect some companies are using inferior black vinyl these days too as I've had a couple black vinyl pressings melt on even the lowest setting.
If those are the worst warps you get I'm truly jealous. Here's just a quick little sampling of the stuff I get, and why I bought a Furutech in the first place. And just to be clear, there are like, hundreds more of these gifs, on my phone, right now...

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I need a drink.
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Their all slightly nauseating, but that green one is particularly awful!
 
Mather said:
As the guy on the forum who owns a Furutech I'll pop my head in here quickly with my two cents.
Firstly yeah I wouldn't worry about the warps you're posting. They're all very very small, in at least one case I couldn't even see any movement. So no, I wouldn't worry about those damaging your cart or anything like that.
Secondly, could a Furutech fix those? Perhaps, I can't say 100% because every warp is different and some that seem easy don't ever come out, and some that seem impossible come out perfectly flat. It's a bit of a lottery. But the thing with colored vinyl and even some black vinyl types, it may flatten it but the record may also come out egg shaped. Colored vinyl has different melting points and it's just as possible that you destroy the record trying to remove a miniscule warp as it is that you get a perfectly flat record in the end. So it's a gamble. I suspect some companies are using inferior black vinyl these days too as I've had a couple black vinyl pressings melt on even the lowest setting.
If those are the worst warps you get I'm truly jealous. Here's just a quick little sampling of the stuff I get, and why I bought a Furutech in the first place. And just to be clear, there are like, hundreds more of these gifs, on my phone, right now...

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I need a drink.
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Joe Mac said:
Honestly look at your tonearm. It barely registers it. Vinyl is an imperfect medium with many constraints, none more so than it being a physical product that will have some degree of manufacturing tolerance. Tonearms and cartridge styli and cantilevers are built with that in mind. So long as your tonearm doesn’t look like it’s a 2022 Mercedes’ F1 car on a straight and the stylus is tracking fine it’s going to be fine.
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And after i had settled down and remembered that i have an Michell record clamp with a felt washer..
Eliminated 95% of that warp. 🙄
 
folsom_lives said:
I can appreciate your pursuit of perfection here but I'd wager my collection that if you closed your eyes you couldn't tell these records from flattened ones sound wise.

My suggestion is sit back and try to enjoy the music and not chase the gremlins so much. You'll enjoy the hobby much more.
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Thoose are reasonable advices 👍 i tend to get very pissed the moment i get a warp (i get them alot) and my mind goes Why me!? Again??

I did however, forgot that i have a Michell Orb clamp, with a felt i washer. Eliminated 95% of that edgewarp. It does not always work, but sometimes it does. :)
 
Joe Mac said:
Honestly look at your tonearm. It barely registers it. Vinyl is an imperfect medium with many constraints, none more so than it being a physical product that will have some degree of manufacturing tolerance. Tonearms and cartridge styli and cantilevers are built with that in mind. So long as your tonearm doesn’t look like it’s a 2022 Mercedes’ F1 car on a straight and the stylus is tracking fine it’s going to be fine.
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My main "concern" is the longevity of the cantilevers suspension. 👍
 
Fixxman32 said:
My main "concern" is the longevity of the cantilevers suspension. 👍
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It’s designed to move because it’s the very movement that creates sound. Once it’s tracking and your tonearm isn’t jumping around like a bucking bronco I wouldn’t be too concerned. Also a key giveaway is how it sounds, anything very off will resolve that through your speakers.
 
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