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What's everyone's favorite Coltrane Prestige Session? Honestly, I've only listened to part of Soultrane and Lush Life and found neither of them to be really sticky. Crescent + Live At The Village Vanguard on Impulse on the other hand, whheewwwwwww
There so many Christian,
That AS Ballads just came back into stock at places, might be a good time to grab that one. It's magical.

Beyond that my personal top 12 Trane:

Lush Life
Blue Train
Giant Steps
Coltrane Jazz
My Favorite Things
Coltrane
Ballads
Coltrane & Hartman
Coltrane & Ellington
Coltrane's Sound
Love Supreme
Concert In Japan

Bonus baker dozen: Live From Birdland (for Alabama alone)
 
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There so many Christian,
That AS Ballads just came back into stock at places, might be a good time to grab that one. It's magical.

Beyond that my personal top 12 Trane:

Lush Life
Blue Train
Giant Steps
Coltrane Jazz
My Favorite Things
Coltrane
Ballads
Coltrane & Hartman
Coltrane & Ellington
Coltrane's Sound
Love Supreme
Concert In Japan

Bonus baker dozen: Live From Birdland (for Alabma alone)
Great list. I agree that Ballads record is splendid and that AP pressing is wonderful.
 
There so many Christian,
That AS Ballads just came back into stock at places, might be a good time to grab that one. It's magical.

Beyond that my personal top 12 Trane:

Lush Life
Blue Train
Giant Steps
Coltrane Jazz
My Favorite Things
Coltrane
Ballads
Coltrane & Hartman
Coltrane & Ellington
Coltrane's Sound
Love Supreme
Concert In Japan

Bonus baker dozen: Live From Birdland (for Alabama alone)
@JohnnyCashFan and I track pretty close here. I have 22 Coltrane albums (including the Atlantic box). For me it really depends on the day and the mood. (Not every day is an "Expression" and "Impressions" day!) :cool:

But I would echo multiple people here and say pick up the AS "Ballads" ASAP. (I actually got mine through Target at a really good price.) The new pressing of "Crescent" is fantastic as well. Dead quiet.
 
My most listened to Trane over the last few years excluding post ALS would be Ole' , Africa/Brass, Live At Birdland ,The Village Vanguard stuff and Crescent .Plays The Blues and Coltrane's Sound would probably be my other favorites from Atlantic period..
Here's something I posted last year regarding my Fav Coltrane, Pre ALS . Still pretty much the same , but I still listen to post ALS a bit more I think.
 
Still haven’t gotten my Ornette Coleman box from UDiscover even though I pre ordered dec 27th

They keep telling me they are looking into it but never say when it will ship or why it hasn’t. I’ve ever said if I can’t get an answer to just refund me. But nothing

Anyone have the same issue with them? I’ve ordered plenty from them before and this is the first time I’ve had a real issue but for the last three weeks they just keep saying “sorry we are looking into this.” Normally I’d be more understanding but I keep getting the runaround/ this was a 230$ box set…
 
Still haven’t gotten my Ornette Coleman box from UDiscover even though I pre ordered dec 27th
I feel your pain, dealing with thesse huge companies is the worst.

Update on my experiance with jazzcenter stage: (whereas I ordered a AS Nina Simone album and they sent me the cheaper back to black version and are refusing to refund me). After getting robot email response after response, I opened a case with paypal for my 30 fucking dollars. Now apparently I got their attention, as they apparently provising responses to paypal (with what evidence I dont know). I swear if I lose this case for whatever reason I'm swearing off buying from Universal music directly.
 
I feel your pain, dealing with thesse huge companies is the worst.

Update on my experiance with jazzcenter stage: (whereas I ordered a AS Nina Simone album and they sent me the cheaper back to black version and are refusing to refund me). After getting robot email response after response, I opened a case with paypal for my 30 fucking dollars. Now apparently I got their attention, as they apparently provising responses to paypal (with what evidence I dont know). I swear if I lose this case for whatever reason I'm swearing off buying from Universal music directly.
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From the other thread, cross posting this sealed LP that I just found in the boxes I bought on Friday. 1979 private label. Philadelphia based musician.

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More info:
 
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Here's something I posted last year regarding my Fav Coltrane, Pre ALS . Still pretty much the same , but I still listen to post ALS a bit more I think.
Good choices!

Prestige era Coltrane is pretty forgettable. He did a lot of sessions for Prestige which were paychecks and developmental steps, even though he was never allowed to really do his own thing. Traneing In is probably the best of the bunch. I always found Lush Life to be a lightweight cocktail session. Soultrane is good, straight ahead bop. Notable during his Prestige years is that Coltrane had intonation and control problems, which got better during that stretch, but still, it is there. When Coltrane returned cleaned up with Monk, he started to get it together.

Settin The Pace is the prime Prestige title IMO. 1958. Heading to the next phase.

The Atlantic period is mixed. There were really two stretches of sessions, one in 1959 which produced Giant Steps, with the leftovers going to the far weaker Coltrane Jazz, and 1960 producing My Favorite Things, Coltrane Plays The Blues, and Coltrane's Sound (a leftovers record). Ole Coltrane was a single 1961 session, when Coltrane was already with Impulse - a contract obligation session, and a good one, but essentially a warmup or precursor to Africa/Brass. Avant Garde was not Coltrane's session, and was not judged good enough for release at the time, only seeing the light of day in 1966 when Coltrane was big. Coltrane was not Ornette, and this was basically an Ornette session fronted by Coltrane.

Africa/Brass is an essential, and really, where it all started. As is Coltrane - a huge record, and a great one.

Then comes material from the Vanguard.

in 1962, Coltrane was having mouthpiece problems. His usual metal Link had been refaced, and was unplayable. Coltrane was forced to temporarily adopt a hard rubber Link, which lacked the edge and projection of a metal Link, and also was tougher for him to blow overtones and altissimo tones. So he had to adapt.

As a result, there was relatively less recording in 1962, and the sessions were fairly unadventurous and straight ahead. The Ellington record and Ballads are prime examples. Mouthpiece crippled sessions. Ballads has stature purely because it is such an anomaly, I hear it often in restaurants, it's a pretty effective panty remover. I like the record, but don't consider it to be representative Coltrane.

1963 was hampered by Elvin's jail stint, but Live At Birdland is a stone classic, and the Newport recordings with Roy Haynes are killer.

1964 has Crescent, another classic, really an early concept album. And then A Love Supreme, another concept album.

After this, many people get off the boat, but I find his late period to be the best. Live At The Village Vanguard Again is essential. Aside from rough recording, Temple is a revelation. Stellar Regions is a return to more structured compositions, and is abstract and accessible at the same time. Live In Japan is best experienced in the original Japanese box sets, of which there are two.

Perhaps the most interesting thing is that there are a lot of fully unreleased Coltrane sessions Universal is sitting on, while happy to put out weak shit like Blue World. Coltrane made several recordings in his late period which still remain unreleased.

It is generally accepted that Elvin Jones departed the Coltrane band in early 1966, but in fact, Elvin continued to play with Coltrane live on occasion well into 1967. There may be recordings of some of these dates.
 
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I haven't been keeping up on here for the past few days as I have been away so maybe it's been shared already, but I got an email this morning from In+Out Records announcing a 2LP Live Sun Ra album signed by Marshall Allen.

These IN+Out releases are of fantastic quality (the ones I have are all great anyway).

@avecigrec @Jan @from_my_stacks @Dtknuckles..... you guys might all be interested in this.

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Good choices!

Prestige era Coltrane is pretty forgettable. He did a lot of sessions for Prestige which were paychecks and developmental steps, even though he was never allowed to really do his own thing. Traneing In is probably the best of the bunch. I always found Lush Life to be a lightweight cocktail session. Soultrane is good, straight ahead bop. Notable during his Prestige years is that Coltrane had intonation and control problems, which got better during that stretch, but still, it is there. When Coltrane returned cleaned up with Monk, he started to get it together.

Settin The Pace is the prime Prestige title IMO. 1958. Heading to the next phase.

The Atlantic period is mixed. There were really two stretches of sessions, one in 1959 which produced Giant Steps, with the leftovers going to the far weker Coltrane Jazz, and 1960 producing My Favorite Things, Coltrane Plays The Blues, and Coltrane's Sound (a leftovers record). Ole Coltrane was a single 1961 session, when Coltrane was already with Impulse - a contract obligation session, and a good one, but essentially a warmup or precursor to Africa/Brass. Avant Garde was not Coltrane's session, and was not judged good enough for release at the time, only seeing the light of day in 1966 when Coltrane was big. Coltrane was not Ornette, and this was basically an Ornette session fronted by Coltrane.

Africa/Brass is an essential, and really, where it all started. As is Coltrane - a huge record, and a great one.

Then comes material from the Vanguard.

in 1962, Coltrane was having mouthpiece problems. His usual metal Link had been refaced, and was unplayable. Coltrane was forced to temporarily adopt a hard rubber Link, which lacked the edge and projection of a metal Link, and also was tougher for him to blow overtones and altissimo tones. So he had to adapt.

As a result, there was relatively less recording in 1962, and the sessions were fairly unadventurous and straight ahead. The Ellington record and Ballads are prime examples. Mouthpiece crippled sessions. Ballads has stature purely because it is such an anomaly, I hear it often in restaurants, it's a pretty effective panty remover. I like the record, but don't consider it to be representative Coltrane.

1963 was hampered by Elvin's jail stint, but Live At Birdland is a stone classic, and the Newport recordings with Roy Haynes are killer.

1964 has Crescent, another classic, really an early concept album. And then A Love Supreme, another concept album.

After this, many people get off the boat, but I find his late period to be the best. Live At The Village Vanguard Again is essential. Aside from rough recording, Temple is a revelation. Stellar Regions is a return to more structured compositions, and is abstract and accessible at the same time. Live In Japan is best experienced in the original Japanese box sets, of which there are two.

Perhaps the most interesting thing is that there are a lot of fully unreleased Coltrane sessions Universal is sitting on, while happy to put out weak shit like Blue World. Coltrane made several recordings in his late period which still remain unreleased.

It is generally accepted that Elvin Jones departed the Coltrane band in early 1966, but in fact, Elvin continued to play with Coltrane live on occasion well into 1967. There may be recordings of some of these dates.
Thanks for sharing this! I have some listening to do but now feel confident I can just go ahead and skip over those prestige years and stay away from the AP pressing temptation
 
I haven't been keeping up on here for the past few days as I have been away so maybe it's been shared already, but I got an email this morning from In+Out Records announcing a 2LP Live Sun Ra album signed by Marshall Allen.

These IN+Out releases are of fantastic quality (the ones I have are all great anyway).

@avecigrec @Jan @from_my_stacks @Dtknuckles..... you guys might all be interested in this.

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If in N. America and want (probably) cheaper shipping, also available from Drowned World Records: Sun Ra Arkestra - Live At Babylon [180G, Vinyl LP]
 
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