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Joe Mac said:
Eeeeeeeeeeeeemo Batman. There’s more than a little of the Spider-Man 3 about that trailer, plus it looks portentous and self regarding. Brooding batman was nailed by Nolan, it’s so dull to see it redone, bring back Adam West 😂
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The trailer really doesn't do anything for me, but I'll watch it at some point for Dano.

I don't get the emo Batman stuff. Like, we all understand why he's wearing the eye black under the mask, right? Come on.

Too many villains? Maybe.

Is that Weevil getting his ass beat by vengeance?

Am I the only one that's exhausted by Batman? Let's see a gritty Question flick instead.
 
The kids (11 and 8) had never seen Back to the Future, so we watched it on Friday night, then ended up watching 2 and 3 on Saturday and Sunday. It had been a while for me, too, but I realized how many of my memories of the series came from part 2- I think when I was a kid that was the one we played the VHS of the most...
 
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Joe Mac said:
Hard disagree but fair enough.
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ayayrawn said:
Recommend checking out every major thing he's done since Twilight ended. Good Time, High Life and The Lighthouse especially.
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Both Pattinson and Stewart have proven themselves to be more than competent actors outside of the franchise that made them famous, it's just that the experience of being the faces of one of the most divisive and hated yet successful movie franchises of the time made them pretty much make a run towards the indie circuit so they didn't have to put up with the bullshit they did for Twilight. The only downside to that is that public perception still sees them as the Twilight actors because those indie movies, as acclaimed as they might have been, weren't what your average viewer is really looking to watch. Pattinson is a great actor, the Twilight movies just weren't great movies and I believe he and Stewart both have admitted that they didn't like their characters and basically stopped taking it seriously and trying at a certain point and so the impression most have of them is a performance that isn't really reflective of their talents.
 
gaporter said:
Both Pattinson and Stewart have proven themselves to be more than competent actors outside of the franchise that made them famous, it's just that the experience of being the faces of one of the most divisive and hated yet successful movie franchises of the time made them pretty much make a run towards the indie circuit so they didn't have to put up with the bullshit they did for Twilight. The only downside to that is that public perception still sees them as the Twilight actors because those indie movies, as acclaimed as they might have been, weren't what your average viewer is really looking to watch. Pattinson is a great actor, the Twilight movies just weren't great movies and I believe he and Stewart both have admitted that they didn't like their characters and basically stopped taking it seriously and trying at a certain point and so the impression most have of them is a performance that isn't really reflective of their talents.
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Yeah I mean that’s as much a comment on the calibre of the actors that went before them. I don’t think he’s close to having Christian Bale’s range and while Clooney stunk Batman up he’s more than proven himself to be a good dramatic actor. Keaton is also another good actor. Much better than Val Kilmer though, he’s as wooden as fuck.
 
Joe Mac said:
Yeah I mean that’s as much a comment on the calibre of the actors that went before them. I don’t think he’s close to having Christian Bale’s range and while Clooney stunk Batman up he’s more than proven himself to be a good dramatic actor. Keaton is also another good actor. Much better than Val Kilmer though, he’s as wooden as fuck.
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Yeah, I see what you mean, but I think Pattinson is as good as some of them when he wants to be. It's hard to judge for sure since I don't think his filmography is really as big as most of the others, but it is impressive for what it is. I try to reserve judgment as best as I can, when Keaton got the role in the 80s people thought it was sacrilege, and a lot of people thought Heath Ledger would suck as the Joker. I've not been very excited for this movie since I've realized it just going to be another gloomy Batman retelling but I believe that Pattinson can come through with a good performance and that a good movie can come from it, even if its well-worn territory at this point.
 
Joe Mac said:
Yeah I mean that’s as much a comment on the calibre of the actors that went before them. I don’t think he’s close to having Christian Bale’s range and while Clooney stunk Batman up he’s more than proven himself to be a good dramatic actor. Keaton is also another good actor. Much better than Val Kilmer though, he’s as wooden as fuck.
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I've always said it's sad that Clooney got such a bad Batman movie, because of all the actors, he can actually sell the idea that Bruce Wayne is a popular playboy millionaire.
 
LeSamourai said:
I've always said it's sad that Clooney got such a bad Batman movie, because of all the actors, he can actually sell the idea that Bruce Wayne is a popular playboy millionaire.
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Joe Mac said:
it was just such an utterly terrible film in every way sadly...
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Hot take: I'd watch Batman & Robin twice before bothering to sit through The Dark Knight Rises again.

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gaporter said:
Hot take: I'd watch Batman & Robin twice before bothering to sit through The Dark Knight Rises again.

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I would almost agree with you but I love the opening sequence of Dark Knight Rises it might be my favorite scene of any of Nolan’s Batman run. Plus Tom Hardy’s Baine is ton’s of fun. Outside of the Batsuit’s new found nipples I don’t recall anything redeeming Batman & Robin.
 
Joe Mac said:
Yeah the dark rises goes on a bit alright but it has its moments. The first two were pretty exceptional though! The thoughts of Mr Freeze just make me cringe lol.
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To me it's just the type of bad I prefer, it feels more fun to me to watch a two-hour long trainwreck that's so bad it's funny and at least has some style, than to watch a three-hour slog that just goes on and on
 
TenderLovingKiller® said:
I would almost agree with you but I love the opening sequence of Dark Knight Rises it might be my favorite scene of any of Nolan’s Batman run. Plus Tom Hardy’s Baine is ton’s of fun. Outside of the Batsuit’s new found nipples I don’t recall anything redeem Batman & Robin.
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It's been a while since I saw TDKR so maybe it's better now than it was then, Bane was the only part of it I kind of liked and even then that didn't hit a home run for me all the way.

I would make a case B&R is better just in pure entertainment value. Like yeah TDKR is a more competently made film but IMO it's not fun and feels like a chore. B&R is such a ridiculous and over the top movie that it's hard not to enjoy it if you know what you're getting going in.
 
gaporter said:
Hot take: I'd watch Batman & Robin twice before bothering to sit through The Dark Knight Rises again.

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@Joe Mac Yeah the dark rises goes on a bit alright but it has its moments. The first two were pretty exceptional though! The thoughts of Mr Freeze just make me cringe lol.
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Hang on, people like Batman Begins? That movie put 12 year old Enaz to sleep in the theater. Hope we actually get a cool take on Scarecrow at some point. Batman and Robin was the first Batman movie I got to see in theaters as a kid so even with as much hate as it gets it always holds a special place with me. Batman Returns is still my favorite and is a yearly watch for me around Christmas. I'm excited for the new one, I hope they nail the vision they are going for, Riddler seems sweet.
 
Enaz Fox said:
Hang on, people like Batman Begins? That movie put 12 year old Enaz to sleep in the theater. Hope we actually get a cool take on Scarecrow at some point. Batman and Robin was the first Batman movie I got to see in theaters as a kid so as much hates as it gets it always holds a special place with me. Batman Returns is still my favorite and is a yearly watch for me around Christmas. I'm excited for the new one, I hope they nail the vision they are going for, Riddler seems sweet.
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Batman Returns is one of the best. Honestly both of the ones Burton was in control still feel to me the closest representation on the big screen of what a Batman movie should strive for, stylish and fun with a dark edge. Nolan's movies are good but I just don't get the same sense of style from them. Like @Indymisanthrope said, they feel really bogged down in trying to elevate Batman to this gritty and cerebral thing that just gets tiring to watch. Nolan's trilogy to me is one great film sandwiched between two ok ones (Batman Begins being better than TDKR but still). I think the residual highs of TDK bleed onto the other films and make people rate them higher just because of the connection.
 
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