Movies

[LeSamourai]

I watched the first Bill and Ted last week and plan on doing the next one and the new one this weekend. So rewatching such a nostalgic movie, I was reminded again that things are often just better in our memories. It’s not a bad movie. It’s charming in places, and has a funny ending with a crazy dumb reveal. But it’s nowhere near as good as I remember it. I remember Bogus Journey so much less so this’ll be interesting.

But, and apparently this is a hot take, it’s like when I watched Space Jam a few years ago and realized it’s terrible (B&T isn’t terrible but it isn’t great). I was bummed. As a kid I was obsessed with that movie. I thought rewatching it would be a fun nostalgic time. But god that movie sucks. It’s a bad movie.

Oh I also watched Beetlejuice for some reason. That’s another nostalgic movie for me. But this one surprisingly holds up. I actually found it much funnier this time around. Haven’t seen it since I was young so a lot of things went over my head. Also I’m shocked...shocked that I watched this as a kid in school. What was the context of us watching it? I have no idea. But I remember that we did.

Space Jam is bad enough that it made a bazillion dollars, but nobody was willing to hire its star or director for another movie afterwards. That's saying something.

We watched the first Bill and Ted, and while it suffered some in my daughter's eyes after watching the Back to the Future trilogy a couple of weeks ago, it's dumb fun and I enjoyed it. I think my favorite parts are the ones that make no sense, like Genghis Khan covering himself in sports padding and being able to skateboard like Tony Hawk.

 

[Bennnnn]

Space Jam is bad enough that it made a bazillion dollars, but nobody was willing to hire its star or director for another movie afterwards. That's saying something.

We watched the first Bill and Ted, and while it suffered some in my daughter's eyes after watching the Back to the Future trilogy a couple of weeks ago, it's dumb fun and I enjoyed it. I think my favorite parts are the ones that make no sense, like Genghis Khan covering himself in sports padding and being able to skateboard like Tony Hawk.

Oh yeah it does have dumb fun moments but not as much as I thought. Also I thought about Back To The Future while watching it and kinda thought ‘now there’s a movie I am always in the mood for...’ 1 and 2, not so much 3.

 

[Bohnjaggs]

Oh yeah it does have dumb fun moments but not as much as I thought. Also I thought about Back To The Future while watching it and kinda thought ‘now there’s a movie I am always in the mood for...’ 1 and 2, not so much 3.

I'm one of those people who actually prefers the second Bill & Ted film to the first. It kind of raises the stakes overall and introduces my favorite character in the trilogy (The Grim Reaper/Death).

Space Jam is bad enough that it made a bazillion dollars, but nobody was willing to hire its star or director for another movie afterwards. That's saying something.

I only saw Space Jam once and that was enough. My wife has surprisingly never seen it, even though she was the perfect age for it when it came out. I've thought about watching it with her but I just can't make myself do it.

 

[dhodo]

I watched the first Bill and Ted last week and plan on doing the next one and the new one this weekend. So rewatching such a nostalgic movie, I was reminded again that things are often just better in our memories. It’s not a bad movie. It’s charming in places, and has a funny ending with a crazy dumb reveal. But it’s nowhere near as good as I remember it. I remember Bogus Journey so much less so this’ll be interesting.

But, and apparently this is a hot take, it’s like when I watched Space Jam a few years ago and realized it’s terrible (B&T isn’t terrible but it isn’t great). I was bummed. As a kid I was obsessed with that movie. I thought rewatching it would be a fun nostalgic time. But god that movie sucks. It’s a bad movie.

Oh I also watched Beetlejuice for some reason. That’s another nostalgic movie for me. But this one surprisingly holds up. I actually found it much funnier this time around. Haven’t seen it since I was young so a lot of things went over my head. Also I’m shocked...shocked that I watched this as a kid in school. What was the context of us watching it? I have no idea. But I remember that we did.

Beetlejuice is gold. I remember watching it a bunch as a kid, but it must have been on TV, because I don't remember that F bomb that stood out on a recent viewing.

 

[Black Sheep Audio]

 

[Melt Face Molly Drop]

Space Jam is bad enough that it made a bazillion dollars, but nobody was willing to hire its star or director for another movie afterwards. That's saying something

To be fair, the director was mostly a music video director, so not like he was looking for an in on Oscar material after that one. I bet the studio knew what they had and weren’t trying to make it anything more than what it was on the surface. As for Jordan, I doubt he felt the need to grab another film so can’t tell if that’s sarc or not. The 90s was ripe already with sports stars in movies.

As for it being a bad movie, well yeah @Bennnnn it’s a kids film set out to entertain. They knew they weren’t making Spirited Away or Who Framed Roger Rabbit here. It’s not thought provoking whatsoever, and merely existed as an escape for parents to earn some points with their kids. It worked with me, as I saw it twice in theaters. I watched it recently for the nostalgia factor and it was just that: a way to evoke memories from the past to elicit emotions in the present.

 

[LeSamourai]

To be fair, the director was mostly a music video director, so not like he was looking for an in on Oscar material after that one. I bet the studio knew what they had and weren’t trying to make it anything more than what it was on the surface. As for Jordan, I doubt he felt the need to grab another film so can’t tell if that’s sarc or not. The 90s was ripe already with sports stars in movies.

As for it being a bad movie, well yeah @Bennnnn it’s a kids film set out to entertain. They knew they weren’t making Spirited Away or Who Framed Roger Rabbit here. It’s not thought provoking whatsoever, and merely existed as an escape for parents to earn some points with their kids. It worked with me, as I saw it twice in theaters. I watched it recently for the nostalgia factor and it was just that: a way to evoke memories from the past to elicit emotions in the present.

I don't really fault it for not being better than it needed to be, but then things like the Lego Movie or the Paddington series come along and are so much better than they needed to be to keep the executives happy, and I sometimes need to remind myself that it's ok for not everything to be great.

 

[LeSamourai]

The Space Jam soundtrack was definitely the most played cd in my stereo that year, I'll add.

 

[BattleFlag]

Re-watched Monterey Pop this evening. My girlfriend had never seen it, so that was a lot of fun to chat about afterwards.

One thing that always strikes me about the film is just how head-and-shoulders above all the other performers Otis Redding was. There are legendary performances all over that festival: Hendrix, Janis Joplin with Big Brother and the Holding Company, The Who, Ravi Shankar. And while the technical chops and lead performances are riveting, no one even comes close to touching Otis’ charisma. He had the crowd in the palm of his hand from the word go.

 

[LeSamourai]

Re-watched Monterey Pop this evening. My girlfriend had never seen it, so that was a lot of fun to chat about afterwards.

One thing that always strikes me about the film is just how head-and-shoulders above all the other performers Otis Redding was. There are legendary performances all over that festival: Hendrix, Janis Joplin with Big Brother and the Holding Company, The Who, Ravi Shankar. And while the technical chops and lead performances are riveting, no one even comes close to touching Otis’ charisma. He had the crowd in the palm of his hand from the word go.

Seeing how I live in Monterey, I really need to watch that one of these days!

 

[Waitressboy]

So, this movie.
Holy shit.
That's all I can say.

 

[ayayrawn]

 

[kvetcha]

Not a great trailer, as trailers go, but I like what I'm seeing.

The litany against fear gave me a lil tingle.

 

[Max Sterling]

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It looks fantastic. I am excited.

 

[Bull Shannon]

Not a great trailer, as trailers go, but I like what I'm seeing.

The litany against fear gave me a lil tingle.

Loved the Pink Floyd, but yeah...my thought was "well, that's Dune." Still, this is the only movie I'm looking forward to this year.

 

[Melt Face Molly Drop]

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So, this movie.
Holy shit.
That's all I can say.

I took a non-calculated risk and started this with my wife. I knew I made a mistake when she said "does this whole movie task place in the car?" She fell asleep shortly thereafter and I proceeded to keep watching for that mindfuck of a house arrival and beyond. I was a little drunk so I stopped it a bit after because it was soo dense. Going to resume today I think so I can absorb it a bit better.

 

[kvetcha]

@Bull Shannon

The teaser for the trailer (ugh) actually gets my blood pumping. Gimme that Zimmer score:

 

[Melt Face Molly Drop]

I took a non-calculated risk and started this with my wife. I knew I made a mistake when she said "does this whole movie task place in the car?" She fell asleep shortly thereafter and I proceeded to keep watching for that mindfuck of a house arrival and beyond. I was a little drunk so I stopped it a bit after because it was soo dense. Going to resume today I think so I can absorb it a bit better.

Just finished ITOET and I think it ended a bit too esoteric for my taste. Sounds like Charlie veered heavily from the book’s violent ending so as to not put the weight of the movie on a big twist reveal. IMO, I think the twist reveal would have been more satisfying to the average film watcher. Instead, it went the more artistic route, which I can understand just not sure it will produce any rewatches from me.

The book ending, while violent and predictable in a sense, would have tied things together in a way a

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choreographed dance and musical couldn’t.

Just my personal preference.

 

[EvanBenner]

@Melt Face Molly Drop Totally agreed. My roommate and I enjoyed the book (I more so than them), and while we enjoyed how Kaufman reframed the central issue of the narrative, the ending sequence really detracted from the weightiness that issue deserved. We actually liked the first half of the sequence and could have left it at that, tbh. Overall, still a great movie, but I also won't be rewatching.

 

[Melt Face Molly Drop]

@Melt Face Molly Drop Totally agreed. My roommate and I enjoyed the book (I more so than them), and while we enjoyed how Kaufman reframed the central issue of the narrative, the ending sequence really detracted from the weightiness that issue deserved. We actually liked the first half of the sequence and could have left it at that, tbh. Overall, still a great movie, but I also won't be rewatching.

Yep, the level of intensity that was built up to the point where the young woman gets locked out of the car and starts walking up to the school was great. Then it kinda just sputtered from there.