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I've seen 5/10 in the BP category (those in red.)

Maverick's and Avatar's inclusion feels purely based on the spectacle that these films created. Really well done, and a couple in the industry (Cruise, Cameron) at the top of their game well into their careers.

EEAAO was touching, innovative and laugh out loud hilarious. It's a movie I wouldn't mind watching yearly and do hope it wins.

Banshees was a very well done dark comedy, and I think Farrell deserves the BA award for his performance here. Subtle, muted, but captures the anxiety and anger of the character as he was going through what I found to be a common, yet confounding situation.

Elvis was the worst of the 5. Good performance from Butler, distracting performance from Hanks. And I just do not like Baz Luhrmann's directing style.

Remaining movies to see in order of how much I've seen people talk about them online:
1. The Fablemans
2. Tar
3. All Quiet on the Western Front
4. Triangle of Sadness
5. Women Talking (this is the only one that wasn't on my radar)

Top Gun: Maverick
Tom Cruise, Jerry Bruckheimer, Christopher McQuarrie, ...
Women Talking
Frances McDormand, Dede Gardner, Jeremy Kleiner
Everything Everywhere All at Once
Daniel Kwan, Daniel Scheinert, Jonathan Wang
The Banshees of Inisherin
Martin McDonagh, Graham Broadbent, Peter Czernin
Triangle of Sadness
Erik Hemmendorff, Philippe Bober
The Fabelmans
Steven Spielberg, Tony Kushner, Kristie Macosko Krieger
All Quiet on the Western Front
Malte Grunert
Avatar: The Way of Water
James Cameron, Jon Landau
Elvis
Baz Luhrmann, Catherine Martin, Gail Berman, ...
Tár
Todd Field, Alexandra Milchan, Scott Lambert
 
TenderLovingKiller® said:
The is wild to me. I don’t understand how Maverick could be considered good and the original is bad. Seeing jet fighter planes zoom around the screen is what’s fun in both. The sequel is a bunch of call backs to the original; they sing the same song in the same bar, they play homoerotic beach sports, etc… I get no liking Top Gun as a whole or enjoying both. But liking the sequel and not liking the original seems odd to me.
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Coming from somebody who has already stated how I feel about both films-- I think it's the technical craft side. From a technical craft side, the second one is immaculately made.
 
TenderLovingKiller® said:
The is wild to me. I don’t understand how Maverick could be considered good and the original is bad. Seeing jet fighter planes zoom around the screen is what’s fun in both. The sequel is a bunch of call backs to the original; they sing the same song in the same bar, they play homoerotic beach sports, etc… I get no liking Top Gun as a whole or enjoying both. But liking the sequel and not liking the original seems odd to me.
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There's so much more to the set pieces and story in Maverick. It has callbacks definitely but they don't make up the bulk of the movie. This is just personal opinion of course, but the story has much more weight and the action scenes are MUCH more impressive than the original, and it's just overall more enjoyable to watch.
 
While we're talking about spectacle and the Oscars: I'm right there with everyone on Nope being snubbed, but The Northman also deserved better imo. I didn't expect it to take up any of the big awards (has Eggers ever been recognized by the Oscars?) but I would have definitely slid it some noms for cinematography/costume design/etc.

Also while it's nice to see The Batman get some (very deserved) love for its technical aspects, if things like Avatar and Top Gun are fair game for BP (no shade!) I don't see why it shouldn't be considered as well 🤷‍♀️ also strongly believe GDT's Pinocchio deserved a BP nomination as well, but one of the only things the Oscars have less respect for than horror is animation, so not surprising. Also I guess I'm the only one who really loved Wendell & Wild because I would have put that in the Animated category in a heartbeat. Was Mad God eligible this year too?
 
kvetcha said:
I agree with @ayayrawn that it feels kinda like they showed the Mission: Impossible production team Top Gun and said 'do another one.' It gets by less on aesthetics and more on a very tightly-constructed, textbook action screenplay combined with amazing practical stunt work.
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I guess I assumed 30+ years of technical innovation would explain why the action scenes in 2022 looked better than the action scenes from 1984. In many ways that is a feat in that in the day and age we now live, it woulda been easier for the sequel to overly reliant on CGI turning it into a another Green Screen disaster.

Maybe the story and non-action portions feel like a sequel to the original and the action sequences feel bigger and better but that is what I was expecting.

For me I could understand people liking the original and liking the sequel, and I wouldn’t have been surprised if people who liked the original were disappointed in the sequel (had it been bad) but the idea that someone would hate the original and enjoy the sequel just feels weird to me. I am hard pressed to think of any movie where I hated the original but loved the sequel. Some where the sequel improves on the original but none where I hated it and then enjoyed the sequel.
 
TenderLovingKiller® said:
I guess I assumed 30+ years of technical innovation would explain why the action scenes in 2022 looked better than the action scenes from 1984. In many ways that is a feat in that in the day and age we now live, it woulda been easier for the sequel to overly reliant on CGI turning it into a another Green Screen disaster.

Maybe the story and non-action portions feel like a sequel to the original and the action sequences feel bigger and better but that is what I was expecting.

For me I could understand people liking the original and liking the sequel, and I wouldn’t have been surprised if people who liked the original were disappointed in the sequel (had it been bad) but the idea that someone would hate the original and enjoy the sequel just feels weird to me. I am hard pressed to think of any movie where I hated the original but loved the sequel. Some where the sequel improves on the original but none where I hated it and then enjoyed the sequel.
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To be clear, I don't hate the original Top Gun. Just think it's mediocre and dated. There are some enjoyable aspects about it.
 
gaporter said:
While we're talking about spectacle and the Oscars: I'm right there with everyone on Nope being snubbed, but The Northman also deserved better imo. I didn't expect it to take up any of the big awards (has Eggers ever been recognized by the Oscars?) but I would have definitely slid it some noms for cinematography/costume design/etc.

Also while it's nice to see The Batman get some (very deserved) love for its technical aspects, if things like Avatar and Top Gun are fair game for BP (no shade!) I don't see why it shouldn't be considered as well 🤷‍♀️ also strongly believe GDT's Pinocchio deserved a BP nomination as well, but one of the only things the Oscars have less respect for than horror is animation, so not surprising. Also I guess I'm the only one who really loved Wendell & Wild because I would have put that in the Animated category in a heartbeat. Was Mad God eligible this year too?
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I enjoy following the oscars just because it's fun to guess, and see films you like win stuff, but yeah, there's always going to be stuff they avoid and I never use them as THE barometer for quality.

To quantify:

Something I like wins/gets nominated: hell yeah, it's nominated for an oscar!

Something I like isn't nominated/something I don't like wins: who cares, oscars don't matter.
 
gaporter said:
also strongly believe GDT's Pinocchio deserved a BP nomination as well, but one of the only things the Oscars have less respect for than horror is animation, so not surprising. Also I guess I'm the only one who really loved Wendell & Wild because I would have put that in the Animated category in a heartbeat. Was Mad God eligible this year too?
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W&W was so fun. I definitely would have though that would be nommed before The Sea Beast which was well produced but shallow.
 
ayayrawn said:
I enjoy following the oscars just because it's fun to guess, and see films you like win stuff, but yeah, there's always going to be stuff they avoid and I never use them as THE barometer for quality.

To quantify:

Something I like wins/gets nominated: hell yeah, it's nominated for an oscar!

Something I like isn't nominated/something I don't like wins: who cares, oscars don't matter.
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Agreed, I have my issues with the ceremony/institution itself but I'm still a movie lover at the end of the day so it's hard for me not to get swept up in the hype. I'm not the kind of person who demands award shows cater to my taste, I'm mostly just venting about the stuff I would have liked to see get a bit more love.

One good takeaway from this ceremony: Mitski is now an Oscar nominee!!
 
Top Gun in 1986 was the beginning of the era of "Summer Action Blockbuster" - Being a Jerry Bruckheimer produced movie puts it on the same plane as a Michael Bay movie.

They also made the same movie - but in race cars for "Days Of Thunder".

I like Top Gun...but I also grew up with it. Saw it in the theater, and it was one of the first VHS tapes that was priced to own when it was released to video...so a lot of people with VCRs owned a copy for 20 bucks. Most VHS movies at that time were still priced for rentals, so they had an MSRP around $100.


I recently bought the 2 movie 4K set of them, but I haven't had time to watch them. I've really only heard good things about the sequel, though.
 
CrazyDiamond84 said:
So is All Quiet on the Western Front as good as the 1930 film? I've got lots of movies to watch before the oscars!
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i haven't seen the old movie, but i did happen to read the book again earlier this year before knowing a new film was on the way, and i will say

there is an added side-plot that didn't feel necessary (but overall made sense for the story and isn't a net-negative inclusion) and in a way the movie ends up focusing more on the political and phyiscal horrors than psychological horrors of war - paul's trip home where he feels disconnected is completely omitted, for example - which i felt was a primary theme of the book. there are illustrations of the psychological toll taken on individuals, but they are not as powerful as they are portrayed in the book even if they are very horrific.

as a movie to watch, though, it is definitely audio-visually impressive and does not hold back. i wish i could have seen it on a theater screen. maybe with the oscar nods i'll get the chance to do so.
 
AndySlash said:
i haven't seen the old movie, but i did happen to read the book again earlier this year before knowing a new film was on the way, and i will say

there is an added side-plot that didn't feel necessary (but overall made sense for the story and isn't a net-negative inclusion) and in a way the movie ends up focusing more on the political and phyiscal horrors than psychological horrors of war - paul's trip home where he feels disconnected is completely omitted, for example - which i felt was a primary theme of the book. there are illustrations of the psychological toll taken on individuals, but they are not as powerful as they are portrayed in the book even if they are very horrific.

as a movie to watch, though, it is definitely audio-visually impressive and does not hold back. i wish i could have seen it on a theater screen. maybe with the oscar nods i'll get the chance to do so.
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The 1930 movie is fantastic, but I haven't read the book to know if it's a good adaptation. The part you said the new movies omits from the book is in the old one though.
 
tvham said:
So I'm not a big horror fan but have been trying to hit the big recent releases - here's my rankings
  1. Barbarian
  2. X
  3. Pearl
  4. Bodies Bodies Bodies
Where shall I go next? I prefer the more psychological type movies over pure slasher. Thinking Midsommar then ??
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Two of my favorite horrors from the past few years are both with Nicholas Cage

• Mandy
• The Color From Out of Space
 
I've seen most? of the Best Picture noms except...

All Quiet On The Western Front - I might get around to it, but it doesn't quite sound like my thing? I don't know
Elvis - just looks so awful I can't believe it has this much oscar traction
Top Gun - just zero interest. I don't care about it at all
Women Talking - this will be the next one I watch as soon as I can


Obviously out of what's here what I'd love to win is Everything Everywhere All At Once.

But I'm sad to see Decision To Leave left out completely. I think that's an incredible film and deserves so much more attention.
 
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