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Oh and on that note, Michael Mann has turned in his script for Heat 2 to Warner Bros. Now it comes down to do they take a chance to pay up for a film that's going to be a critical hit but not a box office one? I worry that with Mickey 17 not paying off and there's no way the new PTA movie will make more than its budget that we may never see Heat 2 get the light of day.
 
mdmost said:
Oh and on that note, Michael Mann has turned in his script for Heat 2 to Warner Bros. Now it comes down to do they take a chance to pay up for a film that's going to be a critical hit but not a box office one? I worry that with Mickey 17 not paying off and there's no way the new PTA movie will make more than its budget that we may never see Heat 2 get the light of day.
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I don't think Michael planned on making it into a film either. He wrote it as a novel a few years ago that I've heard is pretty good.

In any case, it probably will be good if Warner Bros doesn't muck it up. They dragged around Mickey 17 to multiple release dates and are apparently fighting PTA over final cut of OBAA because test screenings didn't find it "relatable" enough. Zazslav is a moron who hates movies and doesn't know how to market them.
 
ayayrawn said:
I don't think Michael planned on making it into a film either. He wrote it as a novel a few years ago that I've heard is pretty good.

In any case, it probably will be good if Warner Bros doesn't muck it up. They dragged around Mickey 17 to multiple release dates and are apparently fighting PTA over final cut of OBAA because test screenings didn't find it "relatable" enough. Zazslav is a moron who hates movies and doesn't know how to market them.
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As much as I'd love to see Heat 2 as a film, I was very happy with the book and would be fine leaving it at that.
 
I think a prequel would be awesome. The sequel portion is tougher given Pacino's age. I don't know how you get around that other than de-aging and I don't know how Mann feels about that. The Chicago portion would absolutely be like Thief which would be tremendous. I wonder if we might see this as an HBO series like Tokyo Vice. You're not getting Adam Driver and others but maybe that's okay.
 
mdmost said:
I think a prequel would be awesome. The sequel portion is tougher given Pacino's age. I don't know how you get around that other than de-aging and I don't know how Mann feels about that. The Chicago portion would absolutely be like Thief which would be tremendous. I wonder if we might see this as an HBO series like Tokyo Vice. You're not getting Adam Driver and others but maybe that's okay.
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As far as I understand the novel is both a prequel and a sequel. And Adam Driver was in Michael Mann's last movie so I don't think it's out of the cards for him to be involved.
 
ayayrawn said:
As far as I understand the novel is both a prequel and a sequel. And Adam Driver was in Michael Mann's last movie so I don't think it's out of the cards for him to be involved.
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Correct. It splits time with Vincent and Neil in Chicago in the 80s and the events post the ending of Heat. I'm saying I could see it more as a HBO series than a movie since Mann has a history with HBO and TV series. It wouldn't have Adam Driver attached if it were a TV series. My worry is WB not wanting to commit to a movie they know won't make money with their current projects not doing well but maybe he can shop it around. Ferrari did poorly with Driver so I don't know if today's Hollywood wants to give him 200 million for a movie that won't make it back. I fear we're reaching a tipping point with studios now appearing to be super worried about budgets. At least that's what they keep putting out to mouthpieces like Variety. That's why we keep living in this hellish era with mostly IP.

If I were in charge of the budget, I'd make it like Infernal Affairs and do a full prequel and then a full sequel. There's enough material for both IMO.
 
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