Neverending Covid-19 Coronavirus
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Fauci warns of 'more and more' coronavirus complications in young people
Early in the outbreak in the U.S., researchers said the virus appeared to be sparing young people while being particularly severe in the elderly and those with underlying health conditions.
Florida governor under fire over claims state is 'cooking the books' on Covid-19
Ron DeSantis angrily dismisses allegation from fired scientist that officials are massaging figures to hide true impact of coronavirus
www.theguardian.com
CDC says COVID-19 cases in U.S. may be 10 times higher than reported
The estimate comes from a nationwide look at antibody tests.
www.nbcnews.com
I sadly do not see us all shutting down again. The feds said we can not support another shut down. The Trump administration is not going to issue guidance for another shutdown.
Red states like Arizona, Texas and Florida are signaling they won't shut down again.
I think this is going to become a red state verse blue state issue. Where blue states will shut down, red states won't. And the federal government won't provide any additional aid to blue states who shut down.
That's the direction we are heading.
dbarila
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Unfortunately you're probably right. I don't even find myself in favor of a full shutdown. That's why I get so frustrated at people taking no precaution. There's other countries that did it without a full lockdown. We can have something in between by having things up but still practicing social distancing and wearing a mask. Especially in crowded places. But the "muh freedoms!" resistance seems to be a uniquely American problem.
Louisiana has also hit pause. We are in stage 2 and have delayed stage 3. The mayor of NOLA is warning people that if they don't wear their masks, she will shut the city down.
I could go into all of this but there was always going to be a problem with a non single payor system. Every other place with socialized medicine has a single payor system where the government owns the clinics and hires the doctors. This is how they control costs. With a system where there are still shareholders and the primary motivator is to bolster stock prices and not to deliver quality lower cost care, and then basing compensation on a CMS guideline (which is how Medicare and Medicaid services are priced) was going to end very badly for the people paying the taxes for this and the people caught in this system.
And here comes more questioning of case counts, which is happening largely because we have no federal guidance for data collection and surveillance because the pandemic team hasn't been staffed or funded in two years.Florida governor under fire over claims state is 'cooking the books' on Covid-19
Ron DeSantis angrily dismisses allegation from fired scientist that officials are massaging figures to hide true impact of coronavirus
Tyr
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It’s such a complete cluster over here. This shouldn’t be a partisan issue, especially given the severity and potential harm to everyone, no matter their political affiliation. But here we are. Ducey needs to go. Yesterday. Unfortunately, unless we can flip this state we shall just get more of the same, I fear.
Jan
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The us seem to have a very high rate of positive which rather points to lower testing as compared to other countries
Tips donated to a Starbucks barista after a 'Karen' tried to shame him
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Turbo
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You have to be a little careful with % positive comparisons when it comes to testing in different countries because a lot of it is related on exactly *who* is being tested. If you concentrate your tests on symptomatic people in hot zones, your percentages will be higher than in places where a lot of asymptomatic population testing is being performed (say, if you count daily/weekly routine tests of government officials or sports league athletes where nobody has exhibited symptoms, or if you just test the population at large to see how things are going). The percentage also changes over time depending on where each country is in their curves. NYC was upwards of 15% in April IIRC.
That said that US percentage is quite high and the infection curves are also rising sharply. The infection on those states is likely already out of control and testing can't keep up. Adjustments will have to be made - which ideally means shut downs of certain sectors and targeted testing strategies until things are under control again.
Turbo
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Lawmakers in Canada and Scotland have pointed to the US as an example of failed coronavirus containment
On Friday, the European Union said they would likely bar travelers from the US and other countries that have not curbed the coronavirus.
www.businessinsider.com
Fake 'face mask exempt' cards encourage people to claim disability to avoid Washington's mask mandate
Officials are warning of fake "face mask exempt" cards encouraging people to claim they have a disability so they can dodge Washington's mask mandate taking effect.
www.king5.com
Florida reports another pandemic record with 9,585 new coronavirus cases
Just when you think Florida has finally reached its limit with the new coronavirus, along comes another day proving the outbreak continues to get worse. On Saturday, the state reported 9,585 more p…
www.sun-sentinel.com
Meanwhile, what is Florida doing to control the spread? Closing a few bars linked to outbreak clusters and pretty much nothing else.