Neverending Covid-19 Coronavirus

RenegadeMonster said:
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Big Ten backtracks on its decision to postpone and will play football this fall after all

Game on.
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Wonder if it was political or financial pressure that caused them to backtrack.

Sounds like political pressure for sure:



I don't see anything about whether or not there will be people in attendance of the games yet in this article. But I suspect that will be on a school by school state by state basis.

Football and basketball are one of the biggest revenue streams for Universities / Colleges.
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I'll say that all the folks that cancelled funerals, weddings, concerts, conventions, and celebrations in Austin in order to keep the community safe for the last 6 months are not feeling too great about UT's 25k tailgating football crowd.
 
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If You've Just Had Covid, Exercise Might Not Be Good for You

A growing number of studies are raising concerns about the coronavirus’ long-term effects on the heart. Athletes especially need to heed the warnings.
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Evidence is emerging that the virus can cause heart damage even in people who’ve had mild symptoms or none at all, especially if those people exercise while they’re infected
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With this said, it could be very irresponsible on colleges and high schools right now to have sports. Athletes are rarely going to say no to playing and they shouldn't be placed in that position. Even if people are asymptomatic when having COVID there is emergence evidence of heart issues with athletics if they exercise while infected or in the near term after.
 
RenegadeMonster said:
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If You've Just Had Covid, Exercise Might Not Be Good for You

A growing number of studies are raising concerns about the coronavirus’ long-term effects on the heart. Athletes especially need to heed the warnings.
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With this said, it could be very irresponsible on colleges and high schools right now to have sports. Athletes are rarely going to say no to playing and they shouldn't be placed in that position. Even if people are asymptomatic when having COVID there is emergence evidence of heart issues with athletics if they exercise while infected or in the near term after.
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Came here to post this. Also something for everyone to be mindful of. I'm a pretty avid runner (40+ miles per week at least when I'm training) and I'm glad I saw this. If you end up with the virus, or you think you might've gotten exposed, take some time off and take it easy!
 
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Emergency stay-home order issued for Grand Valley State University students

Students cannot return to their home address unless for an emergency, Ottawa County health officials ordered Wednesday.
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Excerpt: There have been more than 600 coronavirus cases tied to Grand Valley since Aug. 23, when many students returned to campus, according to the health department. The school of about 25,000, which began the fall semester Aug. 31, is offering a mix of in-person and virtual classes this fall.

This can't be the only school with this kind of outbreak, but I haven't heard of other stay-at-home orders around Michigan yet.
 
As of lately more and more protest over having to wear masks are popping up. People's patience are being stretched thin the longer this goes on. Anyone who is an anti-masker is getting more and more pent up anger and organized events to protest wearing masks are increasing.

On such Mask-free protest forced the evacuation of a York Walmart.

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Mask-free protest forces evacuation at York, Pa.-area Walmart, police say

The group dispersed before law enforcement officers arrived, Springettsbury Township Police said.
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Just heard about one local school district on the news who was support to start hybrid learning today delaying the start of school for grades 4-12 until next Thursday. The younger kids are being allowed back into the classrooms today. Something I'm sure the teachers are not happy about with the lack of air purifiers, but the decision was not about the teachers health, but rather the younger kids which the data shows don't get as sick.

The reason for this delay is their vendor supplying the school district with air purifiers was unable to deliver the order on time. They are hopeful they will get their delivery of air purifiers by next Thursday.

Air purifiers are in short supply this year and unavailable on the west coast as of this time because of the forest fires.
 
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University of Georgia to allow football -- but not in-person voting -- this fall

Student groups and state politicians are criticizing the University of Georgia for not allowing in-person voting on campus this fall.
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The University of Georgia is going to allow Football and thousands of fans are expected to attend UGA's first home football game on October 3rd. However, students have been told that they can't vote in person in November because of social distancing guidelines. If they want to cast their vote in November's election they should do so through the mail.

Talk about priorities.
 
My kids started hybrid elementary school this week. On Wednesday night the Superintendent sent an email saying the high school was fully remote for the time being because a student had tested positive. He/she had not yet been in the school but had been at a gathering.

Meanwhile, elsewhere in the state of Massachusetts:

Six students tested positive for COVID-19 days before Attleboro High School reopened its doors for the first day of school this week. Only five of them stayed home, the city’s mayor told WJAR.

The parents of the sixth student who tested positive sent him to class anyway, the mayor said. Now, 28 students who were in close contact with that young man have to quarantine for two weeks.
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It's no mystery why, 6 months later, we are in the position that we're in.
 
An 8th death has now been linked to the wedding in Maine.

Also, Texas is moving forward with reopening next week. They are lifting more restrictions and increasing indoor dining and bar capacity to 75%. This despite having the third highest number of deaths in the Country and seeing an uptick in cases over the last 2 months.
 
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Here we go again:

On Monday morning, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention swiftly edited its web page describing how the novel coronavirus spreads, removing recently added language saying it was “possible” that the virus spread via airborne transmission. The agency had posted information Friday suggesting the virus can transmit over a distance beyond six feet, suggesting that indoor ventilation is key to protection against its spread. Many aerosol experts had been advancing that idea for months, and it had appeared that the agency had come around to their point of view. But Monday, the CDC said an unreviewed draft had been published in error.
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Somebody with political power didn't like information and had it taken down most likely.

All this flipping, flopping and backtracking on everything is making me dizzy.
 
More on the CDC taking down the guidance that they said was posted "erroneously" last friday.

It appears the scientists who complained loudly about the CDC changing their guidance to recommended not getting tested if you are not symptomatic and were not asked for their input or concurrence handed the favor back to the Trump administration by updating their guidance without the input or concurrence of the Trump Administration or Coronavirus Task Force.

The CDC is claiming a "draft" version of their guidance was erroneously posted last Friday, and that their official guidance does not include that the virus may be airborne and can spread more than 6' feet when aerosolized.

The scientists are saying the data shows that it maybe. And that is their recommendation for guidance. But for political reasons, it was pulled.
 
RenegadeMonster said:

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Somebody with political power didn't like information and had it taken down most likely.

All this flipping, flopping and backtracking on everything is making me dizzy.
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I honestly didn't know the aerosol theory was still in question. I thought there have been multiple studies showing how COVID transmits via aerosols, which is why masking is so important, and not just distancing and hand washing.
 
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I honestly didn't know the aerosol theory was still in question. I thought there have been multiple studies showing how COVID transmits via aerosols, which is why masking is so important, and not just distancing and hand washing.
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I think the question is how much it transmits via aerosols vs. droplets. From what I understand, certain conditions may be susceptible for the creation of aerosols (for example indoors with a blowing air conditioner unit and people are shouting/singing) whereas in general mostly droplets are present. Masking is actually extremely efficient vs droplets but would possibly be less so vs aerosols.

For now, belief is that the main mode of transmission is droplets with occasional events that involve aerosols (I would suspect those being super spreader events though). Compare that to something like measles and TB which are extremely infectious because they spread via aerosols mostly.
 
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