Neverending Covid-19 Coronavirus

nolalady said:
Didn't you tell him that they're injecting people with...a fever....a fever that needs more cowbell??!!
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Conspiracy theorists share schematic for “5G chip” they claim is implanted in COVID-19 vaccines – only it's actually for the Boss Metal Zone

As soon as it's your turn, you'll have op-amps and 1n4148 diodes injected straight into your bloodstream, apparently
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While I think that teachers should be on the list of essential workers to be vaccinated, they are still going to run the risk of infection until we figure out how to vaccinate kids. It's looking like this won't happen until next year:

Clinical trials on children 11 and younger "will take much longer, because we have to age de-escalate and start at a lower dose. So we should not anticipate clinical data in 2021, but more in 2022," Bancel said, according to Business Insider.

Moderna’s clinical trials for 12- to 17-year-olds started 4 weeks ago, but the company is having trouble getting enough participants, said Moncef Slaoui, PhD, the scientific head of Operation Warp Speed, the U.S. government’s vaccine effort. That could delay FDA approval, he said.
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COVID-19 Vaccines

Vaccines are seen as one of the best ways to stop COVID-19. Learn more about the types of vaccines, including the newly approved Novavax.
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Please tell your wife to stay safe.


Also @AnthonyI I'm so glad you're doing better. My heart goes out to you and your family.
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Don't you know that all embedded micro chips have components labeled bass, treble and Footswitch???
 
nolalady said:
Didn't you tell him that they're injecting people with...a fever....a fever that needs more cowbell??!!
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Conspiracy theorists share schematic for “5G chip” they claim is implanted in COVID-19 vaccines – only it's actually for the Boss Metal Zone

As soon as it's your turn, you'll have op-amps and 1n4148 diodes injected straight into your bloodstream, apparently
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Haha, my wife and I were just talking about this last night, which brought this to mind...

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ranbalam said:
So, I have a coworker that is pretty upset about the vaccine. According to the research he's done, 'they' are injecting software into us, and that the goal is to eventually turn us all into part computer/part human. Each year the vaccine will be a system update. I can't believe he believes it...and yet he's firmly planted on this stance.

And, at least half my workplace is now proudly anti-vax, and they make sure everyone knows it.
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My step father is very anti vaccine and is making it heard loud in clear.

He says he doesn't want any chemicals injected into him. He's never gotten the flu shot, he is not going to get a COVID-19 vaccine.

When I asked him what he would do when he wouldn't be allowed to travel, for example get on a plane or enter a different country because he hasn't got the vaccine his response was they don't have the power to do that, it's unconstitutional. They don't do that now for flu shots anyways so why would I think they would mandate i for COIVID vaccines?. He doesn't even act like that's a possibility.

When I countered with "what if?" his answer changed to he would rather just stay home than get the vaccine.
 
RenegadeMonster said:
When I asked him what he would do when he wouldn't be allowed to travel, for example get on a plane or enter a different country because he hasn't got the vaccine his response was they don't have the power to do that, it's unconstitutional. They don't do that now for flu shots anyways so why would I think they would mandate i for COIVID vaccines?. He doesn't even act like that's a possibility.
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Other countries don't really care about your constitution if you want to travel to them. Heads up.
 
RenegadeMonster said:
My step father is very anti vaccine and is making it heard loud in clear.

He says he doesn't want any chemicals injected into him. He's never gotten the flu shot, he is not going to get a COVID-19 vaccine.

When I asked him what he would do when he wouldn't be allowed to travel, for example get on a plane or enter a different country because he hasn't got the vaccine his response was they don't have the power to do that, it's unconstitutional. They don't do that now for flu shots anyways so why would I think they would mandate i for COIVID vaccines?. He doesn't even act like that's a possibility.

When I countered with "what if?" his answer changed to he would rather just stay home than get the vaccine.
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Was he vaccinated as a child?
I wonder where most anti-vaxxers get their stance. (or why) A bad experience or political affiliation or they enjoying being contradictory? It seems a lot of my co-workers are this way because they feel the 'rest of us sheep' will eat up any information fed to us. You know, like the Earth being round and stuff.
 
I still don't understand how the same bunch of Trump supporters were once complaining that "Dems/Pharma were purposefully delaying" releasing the vaccine to hurt Trump in the election. Forget that the efficacy and safety data wasn't in yet, they wanted it out right away. And now that efficacy and safety is satisfactory, somehow they're all anti-vaxxers.
 
I'd just like to reiterate how stupid American's are looking now a days to the rest of the world. I get messages from family every other day or so asking what in Gods name are people thinking...........this accounts for family and friends in Italy, Germany, Sweden and the UK.

I can't stomach wondering onto FB just because of those I need to have on my friends list anymore.
 
ranbalam said:
Was he vaccinated as a child?
I wonder where most anti-vaxxers get their stance. (or why) A bad experience or political affiliation or they enjoying being contradictory? It seems a lot of my co-workers are this way because they feel the 'rest of us sheep' will eat up any information fed to us. You know, like the Earth being round and stuff.
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My husband's uncle walks with a cane due to partial paralysis due to polio. You want to see what effect vaccines have, go talk to him for a while.
 
ranbalam said:
Was he vaccinated as a child?
I wonder where most anti-vaxxers get their stance. (or why) A bad experience or political affiliation or they enjoying being contradictory? It seems a lot of my co-workers are this way because they feel the 'rest of us sheep' will eat up any information fed to us. You know, like the Earth being round and stuff.
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I believe he got that mandatory smallpox vaccination as a child. But other than that, I have no idea.
 
nolalady said:
My husband's uncle walks with a cane due to partial paralysis due to polio. You want to see what effect vaccines have, go talk to him for a while.
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That's why I'm baffled by people that are against it...there is seemingly so much more proof that they work vs not. Then again, my one co-worker says he's fine with all other vaccines, it's just the flu shot and Covid vaccine that he's against.
 
ranbalam said:
That's why I'm baffled by people that are against it...there is seemingly so much more proof that they work vs not. Then again, my one co-worker says he's fine with all other vaccines, it's just the flu shot and Covid vaccine that he's against.
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Anti-vaxxers ignore their own privilege of either having been vaccinated or being surrounded by those who are vaccinated.
 
ranbalam said:
I hit my limit today and am staying off FB and Twitter for awhile. I am realizing that the anti-vax stuff makes me even more upset than other issues right now...and that's really saying something. I wish I could stay away from my coworkers who remind me every day that my wife shouldn't have gotten the vaccine and that round two might damage her, but that unfortunately can't happen.

Anyway, I would like to know for my own sake; what is the data showing so far about side effects to the vaccine? My wife had no adverse reactions aside from the sore arm which of course is common for most any shot. Her next shot is in two weeks. I'm just looking for some sane, level information to help my brain rest. The Twidiots are saying that round 1 is killing the elderly so 'they' can pump up the Covid death numbers. Plus it's causing heart attacks. And on and on.

I am not trying to bring negativity in here, sorry if it comes off that way. It's just that this is the place I turn to for sanity, especially when I'm at my wits' end.

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Hey, @ranbalam I know you were asking about this earlier and we're getting more data in on the side effects of the vaccine. It all looks really positive:
During December 14 to 23, 2020, after administration of a reported 1 893 360 first doses of Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine (1 177 527 in women, 648 327 in men, and 67 506 with sex of recipient not reported),3 CDC identified 21 case reports submitted to VAERS that met Brighton Collaboration case definition criteria for anaphylaxis (Table), corresponding to an estimated rate of 11.1 cases per million doses administered. Four patients (19%) were hospitalized (including 3 in intensive care), and 17 (81%) were treated in an emergency department; 20 (95%) are known to have been discharged home or had recovered at the time of the report to VAERS. No deaths from anaphylaxis were reported.

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Anaphylaxis After First Dose of the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccination

This JAMA Insights review provides clinical details of anaphylactic reactions reported to and verified by the CDC in the first week of use of the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine in the US, December 14-23, 2020.
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Why are men more likely to die from Covid? Researchers are figuring this out. The whole article is a good read and you get to learn more about sex differences in the immune system.

One of the first explanations, researchers say, comes from basic biology. Women have two X chromosomes, men have one. X chromosomes are important because they are rich in genes that regulate immune response. While one of those X chromosomes in women is silenced, in some cases key genes from both X chromosomes can activate the innate immune system, the early alarm system that detects pathogens. Essentially, women have immune system reinforcements they can call upon early in infections that men, with their single X chromosomes, don’t possess.

The presence of estrogen can help suppress ACE 2, a receptor on the surface of many cells that is used by SARS-CoV-2 to enter cells. Conversely, the male hormone androgen appears to enhance the ability of the virus to infect cells. A study found that men undergoing androgen deprivation therapy for prostate cancer appear to be less susceptible to infection by the COVID-19 virus.

In addition, age amplifies and sometimes sabotages a man’s immune response to COVID-19 infection. As men in their early 60s begin to lose their ability to mount an initial immune response to the novel coronavirus, often there is also a compensatory overreaction by other immune system molecules that can lead to damaging inflammation, scientists found. These inflammatory factors can trigger the so called “cytokine storm” which can lead to severe damage to lungs and other tissue that is a hallmark of severe COVID-19 cases.
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Scientists unravel mystery of sex disparities in COVID-19 outcomes

Men are 1.7 times more likely to die from COVID-19 than women. Yale researchers like Akiko Iwasaki are working to figure out why.
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Okay I promise this will be my last one for a while, but I know we have several teachers and teacher's SOs on this board. This is a JAMA paper on the collected science for opening schools safely. Basically, they haven't seen the infection rate go up significantly from most school openings. The problem is with student athletics, as it translates to more infections.

However, the preponderance of available evidence from the fall school semester has been reassuring insofar as the type of rapid spread that was frequently observed in congregate living facilities or high-density worksites has not been reported in education settings in schools. Preventing transmission in school settings will require addressing and reducing levels of transmission in the surrounding communities through policies to interrupt transmission (eg, restrictions on indoor dining at restaurants). In addition, all recommended mitigation measures in schools must continue: requiring universal face mask use, increasing physical distance by dedensifying classrooms and common areas, using hybrid attendance models when needed to limit the total number of contacts and prevent crowding, increasing room air ventilation, and expanding screening testing to rapidly identify and isolate asymptomatic infected individuals. Staff and students should continue to have options for online education, particularly those at increased risk of severe illness or death if infected with SARS-CoV-2.

Nonetheless, some school-related activities have increased the risk of SARS-CoV-2 transmission among students and staff. Numerous media reports of COVID-19 outbreaks among US high school athletic teams suggest that contact during both practices and competition, and at social gatherings associated with team sports, increase risk. On January 26, 2021, CDC released a brief report describing the initial investigation of a COVID-19 outbreak associated with a high school wrestling tournament that occurred in December 2020 and included 10 schools and 130 student-athletes, coaches, and referees.9 Among the 130 tournament participants, 38 (30%) had laboratory-confirmed SARS-CoV-2 infection diagnosed, but less than half the participants were tested. At least 446 contacts of these cases have been identified: 62 household contacts and 384 school athletic, classroom, and other contacts. Secondary transmission occurred among household contacts (18 SARS-CoV-2 infections among 30 tested) and other contacts (23 SARS-CoV-2 infections among 65 tested) and 1 death was reported in a contact, but the full investigation of secondary transmission is ongoing. In recognition of the risk for increased transmission, some states have halted or postponed school athletics.10
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In-Person Education and the Spread of SARS-CoV-2 Infection

This Viewpoint from the CDC summarizes global data about SARS-CoV-2 outbreaks at K-12 schools and emphasizes implementation of community- and school-based policies shown to diminish spread of infection that would allow safer resumption of in-person education in the 2021/22 school year.
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