NHL Thread Because There Isn't An NHL Thread

Twentytwo said:
You are right, but if they kept Dach and Debrincat around, no way that they would be the worst team in the league. They'd be the 8th seed every year like my Preds are or just miss the playoffs which puts you in no man's land.
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Yeah, it takes a lot of effort and circumstance to be the worst team lately :LOL: . If going by players alone, you really need to dump a shit load of talent. We had a terrible coach for half the year mixed with an NHL record year for injuries to get us there. But Chicago may be just bad enough...
 
Turbo said:
Sure with the older guys... even DeBrincat. But the 20 year old? They gave up on him, plain and simple. No reason to trade a young former 3rd pick down for an 11th pick in a bad draft otherwise.

I'm seeing first hand this year what it's like to have management that invests in development. Completely different culture than what we had before, with a team of coaches teaching these young guys instead of expecting them to learn it on the fly. It's no wonder we failed to develop players properly in the past - and also why several other teams fail to do so as well. Some kids have a lot of talent and can wing it on their own. Others need different approaches. It all needs to be tailored. Chicago clearly failed to develop Dach and gave up, just as we did with 3rd picks ourselves in the past.

You're totally correct that they're tanking though. It's painfully clear. And it may even work if Bedard turns out to be a generational talent that doesn't need special development.
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I don't disagree with you but you make it sound like Dach is the second coming of Christ 😆
 
BjorgenFjorgen said:
The number one pick is great but it still doesn't make sense to trade away your very good or promising young players that would be around for that era. One player doesn't make a bad team suddenly good.
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If he is player of Bedard's ilk (basically a generational talent and franchise player) then I beg to differ!
 
Hollywood said:
I don't disagree with you but you make it sound like Dach is the second coming of Christ 😆
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What? Where do you see that? No, I never said that. He's not the advertised "failed" problematic player we were told he was. He's an excellent player that was in a bad environment. Great trade for us. And we just also happen to be in rebuild mode, so the whole idea that you should trade a player like him to rebuild is hogwash. Maybe Chicago makes out ok with their 11th pick. Who knows? But they decided to get rid of an asset that is seeming like a more certain thing, which is a bad move.
 
Hollywood said:
If he is player of Bedard's ilk (basically a generational talent and franchise player) then I beg to differ!
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There is no guarantee you get the #1 pick though. Only 25.5% if last. And they're also not last - they have some serious competition for mediocrity this year. So dumping young assets for this has a greater chance to blow up in your face than not. Different story when trading players in their mid-20's for assets (and to be worst) because they won't be around when your team matures.
 
Turbo said:
What? Where do you see that? No, I never said that. He's not the advertised "failed" problematic player we were told he was. He's an excellent player that was in a bad environment. Great trade for us. And we just also happen to be in rebuild mode, so the whole idea that you should trade a player like him to rebuild is hogwash. Maybe Chicago makes out ok with their 11th pick. Who knows? But they decided to get rid of an asset that is seeming like a more certain thing, which is a bad move.
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I don't know that I would qualify him as an excellent player...he's definitely a good young effective hockey player that has shown flashes of brilliance here and there and he's most certainly not a bust like some people eluded to earlier in the season but I honestly don't know where I would rank him at the moment amongst the best in the league 🤷
 
Turbo said:
There is no guarantee you get the #1 pick though. Only 25.5% if last. And they're also not last - they have some serious competition for mediocrity this year. So dumping young assets for this has a greater chance to blow up in your face than not. Different story when trading players in their mid-20's for assets (and to be worst) because they won't be around when your team matures.
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That is true, although odds are in their favor if they do indeed finish 32nd overall but yes they do have to contend with the likes of Anaheim and Arizona to name but a few...I just hope he doesn't end up in the desert 🏜️🙄
 
Hollywood said:
I don't know that I would qualify him as an excellent player...he's definitely a good young effective hockey player that has shown flashes of brilliance here and there and he's most certainly not a bust like some people eluded to earlier in the season but I honestly don't know where I would rank him at the moment amongst the best in the league 🤷
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I wouldn't rank him at all right now, it's too early to tell. As a fan, he's performed above expectations so far. Especially on the wing along the boards, which was unexpected.
 
Hollywood said:
That is true, although odds are in their favor if they do indeed finish 32nd overall but yes they do have to contend with the likes of Anaheim and Arizona to name but a few...I just hope he doesn't end up in the desert 🏜️🙄
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Oh god, that would be bad.... it might just give that franchise the illusion of extra little push for a few years instead of letting it just die off and move. And now that I'm saying that, I'm sure Gary is already hard at work trying to figure out how to rig the lottery balls.
 
Hollywood said:
If he is player of Bedard's ilk (basically a generational talent and franchise player) then I beg to differ!
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I mean McDavid and Matthews are that good and they can't do it alone—and they both have another top-10 talent on their team, too. Crosby had Malkin, Letang and more, Gretzky had Messier and others, etc. How many franchise players failed to win? A ton.
 
The NHL is considering increasing its regular-season schedule from 82 games to 84, sources told ESPN's Greg Wyshynski.

Under the current format, some teams play only three games against a divisional rival, while others play four. To round out the rest of the schedule, all teams play three contests against non-divisional squads residing in the same conference and two games against each opponent from the other conference.

By adding two more games into the mix, teams would then be able to take on their divisional opponents four times each in a season.

The idea of an 84-game schedule wasn't formally broached at the recent board of governors meeting, but it is expected to be discussed at the general managers' meeting in March, according to Wyshynski.

Sportico first reported on the NHL's consideration of a schedule shift earlier this week. General managers reportedly explored the topic in November with the goal of reducing travel, adding more games between local rivals, and ultimately bringing in more money across the league.
 
Hollywood said:
The NHL is considering increasing its regular-season schedule from 82 games to 84, sources told ESPN's Greg Wyshynski.

Under the current format, some teams play only three games against a divisional rival, while others play four. To round out the rest of the schedule, all teams play three contests against non-divisional squads residing in the same conference and two games against each opponent from the other conference.

By adding two more games into the mix, teams would then be able to take on their divisional opponents four times each in a season.

The idea of an 84-game schedule wasn't formally broached at the recent board of governors meeting, but it is expected to be discussed at the general managers' meeting in March, according to Wyshynski.

Sportico first reported on the NHL's consideration of a schedule shift earlier this week. General managers reportedly explored the topic in November with the goal of reducing travel, adding more games between local rivals, and ultimately bringing in more money across the league.
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It should be less games
 
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