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RenegadeMonster said:
The Today Show asked the Minneapolis sheriff about such incidents this morning.

They stand by with what they did. They said a curfew was in place. This extends to everyone including press. The curfew was ignored, and loudspeaker announcements to disperse were also ignored. So they shot rubber bullets to make them dispers. They don't care if you are press or protesters, they don't want you out after curfew.
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Everything I've seen said the curfew in Minneapolis and St. Paul excluded press. Have you found anything to back up his claim?
 
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Curfew ordered in St. Paul, Minneapolis, other communities

St. Paul, Minneapolis and Dakota County residents will be under mandatory curfew starting at 8 p.m. Friday and Saturday. Roseville, Bloomington and Anoka County and other places are also institutin…
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EXCEPTIONS
Law enforcement, fire and medical personnel are exempt.

Also exempt are people going to and from work, journalists, people in need of medical assistance, and those “fleeing dangerous circumstances, or experiencing homelessness.” The mayors of each city also appear to have the ability to exempt other individuals as they see fit.
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As @jaycee alluded to, I've also seen a report of the police raiding a medical tent and trying to get everyone to leave while people were treating patients bleeding severely from rubber bullets.
 
dhodo said:
Everything I've seen said the curfew in Minneapolis and St. Paul excluded press. Have you found anything to back up his claim?
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Yeah, the actual curfew order issues on the 29th excludes the press. But I'm not sure if that is still accurate, or if the police simply don't care / take the time to tell if you are press or not.
 
dhodo said:
Everything I've seen said the curfew in Minneapolis and St. Paul excluded press. Have you found anything to back up his claim?
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Also, a curfew is a civic infraction enforced via fines similar to a parking ticket. The fact that Police feel that a cerfew violation gives them carte blanche to fire rubber bullets indiscriminately into crowds is just another example of what is wrong with law enforcement in America.
 
its barely 1PM and anonymous basically dropped shit saying "ok trump is a sexual predator, epstein helped, princess diana was murdered by the royal family, wake the fuck up"

what the hell happened
 
Tillman said:
why oh why am I seeing more shit getting posted about how the whole murder was a fucking staged event? what's wrong with people? is the story of white police officers killing an unarmed black man not sensational enough?!?
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it's wild. maybe the reality is so sensational that the only way people can interject themselves or find some control over it is to further sensationalize? maybe that's what the people that want to tear communities apart want? i don't know but we seem to be living in a time where nobody can determine what's factual in spite of it being right there in front of their face. everyone is making up their own reality, their own narrative, their own account of historical events. social media is at the heart of allowing everyone to see what they don't necessarily see easily and simultaneously blinding everyone of reality.
 
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dhodo said:
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Curfew ordered in St. Paul, Minneapolis, other communities

St. Paul, Minneapolis and Dakota County residents will be under mandatory curfew starting at 8 p.m. Friday and Saturday. Roseville, Bloomington and Anoka County and other places are also institutin…
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As @jaycee alluded to, I've also seen a report of the police raiding a medical tent and trying to get everyone to leave while people were treating patients bleeding severely from rubber bullets.
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don't know if this is what you're referring to but the reports seem consistent with this account
 
Teeeee said:
Third degree murder and manslaughter.

I guess it is better than nothing.

But there was nothing manslaughtery about his actions. I would not be surprised if he plead out or merely got probation for those charges.
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My mom was a prosecutor and a public defender and she said she would have charged him with first degree murder and then let the jury decide. Hard to argue that when you bury your knee on someone’s neck for nine minutes.
 
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I know many of you aren't church people, but I'm very pleased that my church in Cincinnati, Crossroads, has taken a definitive and vocal stand on what they choose to stand for. Brian Tome, our lead pastor, has posted multiple times about George Floyd and how disgusted he is by both this incident and the systemic treatment of black people in America. The below video is a conversation with him and Chuck Mingo, another Crossroads pastor (my personal favorite) on the systemic challenges. There is some religious talk, but a lot of it is an experiential discussion, which I found very good. Thought I'd share it.

 
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