Pre-Order Thread

TenderLovingKiller® said:
Looks like that Jamie XX reissue will be a wide release...
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Jamie xx - In Colour: 5th Anniversary Edition (LP - Limited Random Color Vinyl)

Jamie xx will release a remastered version of his debut album In Colour on Dec 11 2020 on Young Turks. Jamie’s definitive In Colour is a bold, celebratory and emotional artistic statement that received critical acclaim across the board as well achieving huge commercial success. The eleven track...
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Hmmm, I might sell my 3LP set and grab one of these. I just don't spin the 3LP often as it's kinda overwhelming.
 
Piratenovelist said:
Glad to see someone here got it mine got canceled :(
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I was confident this was going to oversell everywhere, so I ordered from 3 places in the hopes one may come through. It now looks like I may get them all. So I can sell you one at cost + shipping if you’re still looking.

Edit: I should mention it’s from the UK though so it was $45 USD : /
 
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wynn72 said:
I was confident this was going to oversell everywhere, so I ordered from 3 places in the hopes one may come through. It now looks like I may get them all. So I can sell you one at cost + shipping if you’re still looking.

Edit: I should mention it’s from the UK though so it was $45 USD : /
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If I can handle the funds after Xmas shopping and a few bills coming up sure! I would be glad to have it. I will see what I can do I can't this exact second, but if you do have an extra I will see what i can do
 
Piratenovelist said:
If I can handle the funds after Xmas shopping and a few bills coming up sure! I would be glad to have it. I will see what I can do I can't this exact second, but if you do have an extra I will see what i can do
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sounds good! I’ll hold onto it until I hear from you, just let me know either way. Ill pop it onto discogs otherwise, but Id much rather sell to someone here who missed out
 
Russ I said:
Fuck Turntable Lab. Just picked up Immunity from the Target Buy2Get1Free sale for $14+. Works for me.
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It’s sad but this is why smaller stores are having trouble staying open. You can’t possible beat the prices from Target and Amazon sometimes. There was a poster on Reddit saying that they own a record store and it’s cheaper for them sometimes to buy records in sales like this and resell them at MSRP in their shop than it is to buy them from the distributors.

I get that people were frustrated by the TTL incident but the exclusives were up for a bit (didn’t sell out immediately) and they already refunded me for the shipping cost error...
 
MikeH said:
It’s sad but this is why smaller stores are having trouble staying open. You can’t possible beat the prices from Target and Amazon sometimes. There was a poster on Reddit saying that they own a record store and it’s cheaper for them sometimes to buy records in sales like this and resell them at MSRP in their shop than it is to buy them from the distributors.

I get that people were frustrated by the TTL incident but the exclusives were up for a bit (didn’t sell out immediately) and they already refunded me for the shipping cost error...
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Your point is well taken Mike, and maybe this is related to what you’re saying but a small store shouldn’t have to resort to stoking FOMO in order to survive, and the admittedly very small sampling of their sales approach that I observed in this case leads me to suggest they are contributing to their own demise.
 
Russ I said:
Your point is well taken Mike, and maybe this is related to what you’re saying but a small store shouldn’t have to resort to stoking FOMO in order to survive, and the admittedly very small sampling of their sales approach that I observed in this case leads me to suggest they are contributing to their own demise.
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With the state of the vinyl market, limited color pressings are unfortunately the thing that sells quickest and best. It's a seemingly necessary evil and TTL isn't the only ones who are doing it. If TTL needs to sell some exclusive pressings of things to stay in business, than I'm all for it. It seems to me that its the opposite of what you are saying is happening. Places like TTL NEED to sell exclusives that are limited because they simply can't compete with prices of everything else with Amazon, Target and other retailers.

I'm not some local record store purist or anything. I buy from big box places too because as a consumer, sometimes the prices differences are astronomical. If it's a few dollar difference on a record, I'll buy from my local (and god knows I buy plenty of used records from them). But some of these records--tone poets come to mind--are $35 at my local and I have gotten for $15-$17 in these big box sales. And there's nothing my local can do about those prices.

The sad reality is that places like TTL need to sell exclusives to stay afloat. Their exclusives also help put them on the map again. They had to close their NY storefront recently and these selling out quickly helps their business. It sucks that this rollout got botched by the shipping price mistake. Shit happens and I don't think it was intentional. I'm glad they are correcting it and refunding the difference though. I have ordered from TTL for probably a decade now between their storefront and online retail. If there were issues with anything, they made it right and they seem like good people.

The other issue as others know is that with resale prices being absolutely insane, places often hike up the price of records. I don't think TTL has done that too drastically--they could sell some of these exclusives for $40+ if they wanted to and they would likely still sell out based on discogs pricings of some of these albums.
 
MikeH said:
With the state of the vinyl market, limited color pressings are unfortunately the thing that sells quickest and best. It's a seemingly necessary evil and TTL isn't the only ones who are doing it. If TTL needs to sell some exclusive pressings of things to stay in business, than I'm all for it. It seems to me that its the opposite of what you are saying is happening. Places like TTL NEED to sell exclusives that are limited because they simply can't compete with prices of everything else with Amazon, Target and other retailers.

I'm not some local record store purist or anything. I buy from big box places too because as a consumer, sometimes the prices differences are astronomical. If it's a few dollar difference on a record, I'll buy from my local (and god knows I buy plenty of used records from them). But some of these records--tone poets come to mind--are $35 at my local and I have gotten for $15-$17 in these big box sales. And there's nothing my local can do about those prices.

The sad reality is that places like TTL need to sell exclusives to stay afloat. Their exclusives also help put them on the map again. They had to close their NY storefront recently and these selling out quickly helps their business. It sucks that this rollout got botched by the shipping price mistake. Shit happens and I don't think it was intentional. I'm glad they are correcting it and refunding the difference though. I have ordered from TTL for probably a decade now between their storefront and online retail. If there were issues with anything, they made it right and they seem like good people.

The other issue as others know is that with resale prices being absolutely insane, places often hike up the price of records. I don't think TTL has done that too drastically--they could sell some of these exclusives for $40+ if they wanted to and they would likely still sell out based on discogs pricings of some of these albums.
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Makes sense, and I yield to your argument :D. If I'm honest, part of my frustration "with TTL" was really with myself for getting sucked into the hype and "missing out" on something that, in retrospect, I never should have been looking at in the first place. What you've described is an all-too-familiar scenario that independents of all sorts have been facing for a very long time, and I too believe in the importance of their existence at the same time I am similarly behaving, at times, in ways that are not supportive of this.
 
Russ I said:
Makes sense, and I yield to your argument :D. If I'm honest, part of my frustration "with TTL" was really with myself for getting sucked into the hype and "missing out" on something that, in retrospect, I never should have been looking at in the first place. What you've described is an all-too-familiar scenario that independents of all sorts have been facing for a very long time, and I too believe in the importance of their existence at the same time I am similarly behaving, at times, in ways that are not supportive of this.
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I agree but sadly the FOMO thing is here to stay because it simply moves products. Yes--they are inherently promoting FOMO by doing limited pressings, but there were 1,000 copies and it didn't instantly sell out. At least the pricing hasn't gone insane from them lately so outside of the shipping price fiasco, it was $15 for an EP and $25 for a single LP (which is kind of sadly the going rate now). They aren't doing the VMP $35 for a single LP now which I appreciate even though they likely could sell it at that price.

The best path forward is having limited color albums and then wider variants available. I really wish more places did the Qrates kind of method of having a 30 day preorder window...still keeps the record "limited" but as many people can get it as they want.
 
MikeH said:
I agree but sadly the FOMO thing is here to stay because it simply moves products. Yes--they are inherently promoting FOMO by doing limited pressings, but there were 1,000 copies and it didn't instantly sell out. At least the pricing hasn't gone insane from them lately so outside of the shipping price fiasco, it was $15 for an EP and $25 for a single LP (which is kind of sadly the going rate now). They aren't doing the VMP $35 for a single LP now which I appreciate even though they likely could sell it at that price.

The best path forward is having limited color albums and then wider variants available. I really wish more places did the Qrates kind of method of having a 30 day preorder window...still keeps the record "limited" but as many people can get it as they want.
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Those are both good methods.

Not sure if this is what started this conversation, but there's no reason to be pissed at TTL over the Clairo release, if that's what this is all about. It was available. You can't both want a limited variant and also complain that it's limited, when there are black copies around. Anyone that was tripping about a shipping glitch could have just ordered it and emailed them about it. If it was a glitch, they'd fix it. If it wasn't, you could have canceled it. It's a pre-order.

By the way, vinyl was available for decades and nobody wanted it. I know, because I was buying it consistently for $2. Maybe not usually new releases -- except, that's definitely what I was doing with indie label releases, when possible -- but where did this "resurgence" come from? It's marketing. It's a business model based around hype and trends. It seems like people just get pissed when they don't get something and make it a major issue, beyond their own personal disappointment, as if it's some huge morality issue destroying society. For those of us who didn't grow up in or live in a world where everything has worked out for them, it seems pretty trivial. Now, if they are fucking up your credit card, sending you damaged products and/or stonewalling you, etc., I get that. Not buying a record in time... set an alert. Being bad as a business model... I don't even like that records cost $30, now. This is an era of digital streaming and free to cheap access to most of the stuff coming out. To convince people to spend money on physical media, they're going to employ certain tactics. I live in a city where living spaces are shrinking, while rents continue to skyrocket. On top of that, we're in a pandemic that is affecting both in-person retail and personal finance. Buying records shouldn't even make a whole lot of sense for a lot of those who do it..
 
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