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gaporter said:
Yeah, here in the US Oasis are the way bigger and more well-known of the two, at least nowadays. A lot of people know Blur as the band the Gorillaz guy was in before Gorillaz, lol. People know "Song 2" but that's about it. I think Oasis were just more accessible to Americans than Blur were. Blur were very aggressively British as opposed to Oasis who seemed to play a very "universal" (hehe) kind of music.
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Which is random because the perception here in the 90s as it was going off was that oasis blew every opportunity to break the US. Noel walking off the first tour after Liam’s Crystal meth incident. Liam walking off the second tour to go house hunting with his then wife. I think the third tour blew up too. Blur were seen to have made it to an extent after Song 2 and the self titled album. Both charted as strongly as anything else britpop.
 
Joe Mac said:
Which is random because the perception here in the 90s as it was going off was that oasis blew every opportunity to break the US. Noel walking off the first tour after Liam’s Crystal meth incident. Liam walking off the second tour to go house hunting with his then wife. I think the third tour blew up too. Blur were seen to have made it to an extent after Song 2 and the self titled album. Both charted as strongly as anything else britpop.
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Yeah, I can only speak for my lifetime, but that's the perception I've always gotten from the point of view of an American millennial (or whatever the shit I am these days). I was born in 1999 and it's fair to say by the time i was old enough to know what a "britpop" was both bands were well past their peak. I admit i probably wouldn't have been exposed to Blur at such a young age if it wasn't for the Gorillaz gateway.
 
Joe Mac said:
Which is random because the perception here in the 90s as it was going off was that oasis blew every opportunity to break the US. Noel walking off the first tour after Liam’s Crystal meth incident. Liam walking off the second tour to go house hunting with his then wife. I think the third tour blew up too. Blur were seen to have made it to an extent after Song 2 and the self titled album. Both charted as strongly as anything else britpop.
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At least in my social group, I guess everybody knew two songs by Oasis and one song by Blur, so I wouldn't say either really made it by that incredibly imperfect standard. I guess Oasis was twice as ubiquitous though!
 
gaporter said:
Yeah, I can only speak for my lifetime, but that's the perception I've always gotten from the point of view of an American millennial (or whatever the shit I am these days). I was born in 1999 and it's fair to say by the time i was old enough to know what a "britpop" was both bands were well past their peak. I admit i probably wouldn't have been exposed to Blur at such a young age if it wasn't for the Gorillaz gateway.
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You’re still a millennial? I thought that’s what I was supposed to be 😂. Not that any of those labels make sense. Yeah oasis limped on for a long time past their best whereas blur kinda ended as a going concern after the fall out around think tank, they’ve only really been together intermittently since.
 
dhodo said:
Pulp is probably my favorite that I never heard of growing up, but I do t know if that is normal or not. Maybe they were more popular than I thought.
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I think the issue with relative size is that Britpop was never really the second British Invasion and so it’s not really possible to define on an American basis. Pulp were plenty big enough in Britain and had quite a few hit singles and, I think, 2 number 1 albums. They were never really at the size of the big 2 though.
 
Joe Mac said:
I think the issue with relative size is that Britpop was never really the second British Invasion and so it’s not really possible to define on an American basis. Pulp were plenty big enough and had quite a few hit single and, I think, 2 number 1 albums. They were never really at the size of the big 2 though.
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Oh I figured they were popular in the UK. Did they chart in the US though? I wasn't sure if it was surprising that I hadn't heard of them or not.
 
Pulp could play theaters in large US markets. Suede didn't even try after they had to change their name to London Suede in the states. Oasis was the only britpop band to play large venues unless you count Radiohead--which seems ridiculous but they were very britpop adjacent in The Bends era.
 
McGlam said:
Pulp could play theaters in large US markets. Suede didn't even try after they had to change their name to London Suede in the states. Oasis was the only britpop band to play large venues unless you count Radiohead--which seems ridiculous but they were very britpop adjacent in The Bends era.
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But equally never really part of it. I think the two that were big at the time, but also kinda apart, were themselves and the Manics.
 
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Joe Mac said:
Which is random because the perception here in the 90s as it was going off was that oasis blew every opportunity to break the US. Noel walking off the first tour after Liam’s Crystal meth incident. Liam walking off the second tour to go house hunting with his then wife. I think the third tour blew up too. Blur were seen to have made it to an extent after Song 2 and the self titled album. Both charted as strongly as anything else britpop.
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Had to compete with Grunge and also compared to the UK where they were built up by music press hype, here in America bands and expected to tour and tour and tour and build their audience that way. That's honestly why the Britpop thing didn't hit as hard here.

Take a band like Bush. The UK music press didn't really like them much, but here in America we accepted them but they had to earn it more by touring their butts off.
 
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