Pre-Order Thread

I do think people in this hobby are probably smart to consider the cost benefits/risks of selling a record when buying it though. A very LE of a popular release is going to be so much easier to sell or trade if it's something you need to in the future especially for an artist with a strong fanbase (likely for more money but even if not for more money). And in this case the release was explicitly noted with a hard LE# for the color that was then taken away. I'd be pissed too if I had bought it.

With that said, it's been a while since I've gone out of my way to specifically hunt down the most limited of an item, so maybe it's more conceptual than anything at this point. I think seeing Courtney Barnett announced eight different blue variants for her most recent album which popped up sub-15 on Amazon this week may have broken that in me.
 
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Yer Ol' Uncle D said:
This is why I buy records for the music, not the pageantry of limited this, variant that, numbered here, foil stamped there. But hey, that's just me. I got into vinyl for what was in the grooves, the sound and the experience of listening to an LP, not how many they made of a hundred different color variants - cough, Black Pumas, cough. All these labels pumping out small batch (or, sometimes, actually not) releases at stupid prices are laughing all the way to the bank. In a way, I feel they're actually devaluing the work of the artists. In many cases, it's become more about the packaging and the exclusivity than the actual craft the musicians put their blood, sweat and tears into creating and sharing with us. I may be completely out of touch, but I find it all very sad.
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You bothered to quote me directly so I guess I'll do the same. Not trying to start shit by any means, but collecting for the music's sake and collecting for the thrill of finding something "limited" is not mutually exclusive. I can enjoy both aspects. I don't have said album, I like the music, and it something is "more rare" then why not go for that one first? Would you have a problem with signed variants or is it just pretty colors that bother you? Where are your goalposts on this because the Definitive Audiophile Pressing thread may like a word.

You wouldn't go so far as to say that anyone who is into collecting for collecting's sake should just sit back and enjoy whatever they have because that's your perspective. If that was all it was, then this place would just be full of Spotify or Tidal playlists since "collecting" is for dweebs.

It's easy to point fingers and laugh at Black Pumas for pressing after pressing on shiny new colors. That's fine. I say let them go for it. But they have arguably been more successful with that one album than some other groups and if their variants are still selling, good for them. And to then go so far as to say anyone who buys the next variant is a loser for being incited by a shiny new color is myopic. They may not have any version of the album and if that next pressing happens to be blue or gray or whatever, then who are you to judge. It might have been about the music and not the color... but because they have no black vinyl mass-market pressing *cough Adele cough* they are shills and sellouts?

The only reason I made any comment about the limited nature was that they seemingly pulled the rug out of those who thought they were getting something more exclusive for being first in line. I'm allowed to be mildly annoyed by that and share that with anyone else who may not have known and could be more annoyed about it than me. You bothered to poke your nose into the Pre-order thread which is arguably the most "toxic" in your opinion. So my question was why? You come in on a high horse for what? We all love music, that's why we are here. Some of us love collecting AND music, that why we are here. If you wanted to make a broader statement about "the industry" it didn't land the way you intended and felt more like an ad hominem to parts of the community here (or at least that's they way I am taking it).

I respect you and that you have been around since the old days of the previous forum. You have a standing here I won't try to diminish. I just ask that maybe this argument you have about substance over style be retired. It can be both and you know that.
 
Yer Ol' Uncle D said:
This is why I buy records for the music, not the pageantry of limited this, variant that, numbered here, foil stamped there. But hey, that's just me. I got into vinyl for what was in the grooves, the sound and the experience of listening to an LP, not how many they made of a hundred different color variants - cough, Black Pumas, cough. All these labels pumping out small batch (or, sometimes, actually not) releases at stupid prices are laughing all the way to the bank. In a way, I feel they're actually devaluing the work of the artists. In many cases, it's become more about the packaging and the exclusivity than the actual craft the musicians put their blood, sweat and tears into creating and sharing with us. I may be completely out of touch, but I find it all very sad.
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MikeH said:
I buy albums for the music too. But if a limited variant is the same price as the general black release, I’ll usually grab the color/limited version. Sometimes I fall for paying a few extra bucks for something limited but it’s not a very common occurrence for me. I don’t really get when people pay insane amounts of money for a color version on eBay or discogs when a black vinyl version with the same mastering and plating is available at retail still. That one boggles my mind.

But I definitely fell for the limited thing this time since I’ve been waiting awhile for this album to be reissued. I figured I would rather order direct through the band and pay a few extra bucks for the limited one to support them directly. Then they decided to do a little bait and switch so I cancelled it. I think it’s a pretty crappy business practice on their part.

We are all guilty here of making some impractical decisions. I mean…we buy and listen to music on 12” slabs of vinyl haha. Overall I think the whole color variant and limited thing is one of the worst things to happen to the vinyl industry for a lot of the reasons you mentioned. On the other hand, it played a large part in the vinyl resurgence especially with people of the younger generations. So it’s a bit complicated.
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POGunter said:
Fully agree. I like to believe I'm a music lover 1st, an audiophile 2nd, and a collector 3rd although I admittedly sometimes fall short. Variants/alt covers/etc can be fun if not overdone but I completely agree some labels and bands have over marketed "limited" to pointlessness. And, the marketing for the initial roll out should be figured out well in advance Not made up on the fly after the $$$s start coming in.

In the end if we never saw anything but great music readily available, well recorded, and pressed with loving care on top grade black vinyl I personally would be a very happy music listener.
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waruv said:
I do think people in this hobby are probably smart to consider the cost benefits/risks of selling a record when buying it though. A very LE of a popular release is going to be so much easier to sell or trade if it's something you need to in the future especially for an artist with a strong fanbase (likely for more money but even if not for more money). And in this case the release was explicitly noted with a hard LE# for the color that was then taken away. I'd be pissed too if I had bought it.

With that said, it's been a while since I've gone out of my way to specifically hunt down the most limited of an item, so maybe it's more conceptual than anything at this point. I think seeing Courtney Barnett announced eight different blue variants for her most recent album which popped up sub-15 on Amazon this week may have broken that in me.
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RenegadeMonster said:
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Chronic Town: Limited Edition Picture Disc

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Chronic Town (Picture Disc EP)

40th Anniversary Edition of Chronic Town, R.E.M.'s 1982 debut EP. Includes "Gardening At Night," "Wolves, Lower" and more. Available on a double-sided picture disc featuring the iconic gargoyle cover art and a 1982 image of the band. TRACKLIST: Side AA1. Wolves, LowerA2. Gardening At NightA3...
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The irony of this particular time line of posts cannot be ignored.
 
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