Pre-Order Thread

I have the cream, LRSD tri-split and the deluxe splatter and they all sound great. Such a brilliant album even if they deserve every bit of memery around their milking of variants lol.

Go see them live if you get a chance. I like the album, it’s good retro soul but I think it’s a little bit safe personally, there are other artists pushing the boundaries of that genre a bit more for me. But live is just wow, they are a killer live act, one of the best that I’ve seen in a long long time.
 
Go see them live if you get a chance. I like the album, it’s good retro soul but I think it’s a little bit safe personally, there are other artists pushing the boundaries of that genre a bit more for me. But live is just wow, they are a killer live act, one of the best that I’ve seen in a long long time.
Interesting! I can see the playing it safe for sure. It’s like a comfort food album for me. Nothing particularly challenging but an easy listen that always brings some positive vibes. Reliable might be a word I'd use. It's great to hear they're fantastic live. When this all dies down and we progress toward more normal times I'll definitely keep an eye out for tickets and shows near me. Would have been keen before but knowing they're that good makes me want to lock it in.

I'd be curious to know your suggestions for others in the genre too. It's not one I've (knowingly) explored at all so would be good to spread myself a little wider on it.
 
Interesting! I can see the playing it safe for sure. It’s like a comfort food album for me. Nothing particularly challenging but an easy listen that always brings some positive vibes. Reliable might be a word I'd use. It's great to hear they're fantastic live. When this all dies down and we progress toward more normal times I'll definitely keep an eye out for tickets and shows near me. Would have keen before but knowing they're that good makes me want to lock it in.

I'd be curious to know your suggestions for others in the genre too. It's not one I've (knowingly) explored at all so would be good to spread myself a little wider on it.

Oh I enjoy it, I just think they’re much better as a live act. The variant nonsense leaves a bad taste for me too, although that could be the label as much as the band.

I’m by no means an expert but even out of the acclaimed acts that you’d see everyone on here heralding Michael Kiwanuka and Moses Sumney (I know Moses is probably a bit less definable) are both making music in the same ballpark but I think that their albums are much more forward thinking, and are better for it.
 
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Go see them live if you get a chance. I like the album, it’s good retro soul but I think it’s a little bit safe personally, there are other artists pushing the boundaries of that genre a bit more for me. But live is just wow, they are a killer live act, one of the best that I’ve seen in a long long time.
yeah. it's a good album but I'm not sure if I find it a bit humdrum or if all the hype around this album (especially 'round this neck of the woods) just makes it impossible to live up to for me.
 
Oh I enjoy it, I just think they’re much better as a live act. The variant nonsense leaves a bad taste for me too, although that couple be the label as much as the band.

I’m by no means an expert but even out of the acclaimed acts that you’d see everyone on here heralding Michael Kiwanuka and Moses Sumney (I know Moses is probably a bit less definable) are both making music in the same ballpark but I think that their albums are much more forward thinking, and are better for it.
yeah, Moses is in a whole different lane. I don't dislike Black Pumas, but Moses Sumney they are not. they're not Kiwanuka either, while I wouldn't necessarily compare Sumney to Kiwanuka their music is far more interesting than what the Pumas offer in my opinion. that said Moses and Michael have put out more music that has shown growth and evolution while the Pumas have a single album, time will tell if they too can grow into something bigger and better.
 
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Oh I enjoy it, I just think they’re much better as a live act. The variant nonsense leaves a bad taste for me too, although that couple be the label as much as the band.

I’m by no means an expert but even out of the acclaimed acts that you’d see everyone on here heralding Michael Kiwanuka and Moses Sumney (I know Moses is probably a bit less definable) are both making music in the same ballpark but I think that their albums are much more forward thinking, and are better for it.
All the more reason for me to try and see them! Appreciate the variant criticism too as it's something that irritates me also. Hasn't taken me long to feel like there's little point going for more than that which seems distinct or offers something new. Staggered drops that aren't signalled beforehand feel particularly egregious.

Haha, well good recommendations there for what it's worth. I have the VMP version of Moses Sumney's Aromanticism and have been fond of Michael Kiwanuka's album for awhile. I can completely see where you're coming from with that context and agree that Black Pumas would be like blacmange in comparison lol, especially to Sumney.
 
yeah, Moses is in a whole different lane. I don't dislike Black Pumas, but Moses Sumney they are not.

Yeah I wouldn’t ever say they were close to either Kiwanuka or, particularly, Moses. Those two for me are making wonderful forward thinking music in a similar genre space. The Black Pumas are making good solidly crafted retro soul music, similar to Durand Jones & The Indications, Curtis Harding and Leon Bridges. What I will say is that I’ve seen both the Black Pumas and Durand Jones & The Indications live and both are on another level live, a long way ahead of what they are on record.
 
Yeah I wouldn’t ever say they were close to either Kiwanuka or, particularly, Moses. Those two for me are making wonderful forward thinking music in a similar genre space. The Black Pumas are making good solidly crafted retro soul music, similar to Durand Jones & The Indications, Curtis Harding and Leon Bridges. What I will say is that I’ve seen both the Black Pumas and Durand Jones & The Indications live and both are on another level live, a long way ahead of what they are on record.
yeah man. there are just some bands that are incredible in a live setting but can seem rather lifeless on record. just as there are bands that are great on record but can't put on a live show. it makes those artists/bands that put out great albums and amazing live shows extra special.
 
All the more reason for me to try and see them! Appreciate the variant criticism too as it's something that irritates me also. Hasn't taken me long to feel like there's little point going for more than that which seems distinct or offers something new. Staggered drops that aren't signalled beforehand feel particularly egregious.

Haha, well good recommendations there for what it's worth. I have the VMP version of Moses Sumney's Aromanticism and have been fond of Michael Kiwanuka's album for awhile. I can completely see where you're coming from with that context and agree that Black Pumas would be like blacmange in comparison lol, especially to Sumney.

Yeah I don't want to kick them, they are clearly great musicians and their music is beautifully crafted and there is nothing wrong with making music that makes people happy, it’s just not particularly groundbreaking. Maybe they’ll kick on and morph into something special, Kiwanuka’s debut “Home Again” was a bit retro-soul too and the jump with his second “Love & Hate” was seismic, went from enjoyable to an artist who clearly had something very very special and that continued on with his third. Moses is a bit something different and special again. Have you heard Grae yet? It’s sprawling and magnificent!
 
Yeah I don't want to kick them, they are clearly great musicians and their music is beautifully crafted and there is nothing wrong with making music that makes people happy, it’s just not particularly groundbreaking. Maybe they’ll kick on and morph into something special, Kiwanuka’s debut “Home Again” was a bit retro-soul too and the jump with his second “Love & Hate” was seismic, went from enjoyable to an artist who clearly had something very very special and that continued on with his third. Moses is a bit something different and special again. Have you heard Grae yet? It’s sprawling and magnificent!
Kiwanuka has no business being as far under the radar as he is over here. All of his albums are really solid and he just seems to get better.
 
Kiwanuka has no business being as far under the radar as he is over here. All of his albums are really solid and he just seems to get better.
I really don’t get it. It seems hardly anybody here knows him and as you said, he’s fantastic. The only kind of mainstream attention he has gotten over here was when one of his tracks was the Big Little Lies theme song and some of his other songs were on that soundtrack.
 
Interesting! I can see the playing it safe for sure. It’s like a comfort food album for me. Nothing particularly challenging but an easy listen that always brings some positive vibes. Reliable might be a word I'd use. It's great to hear they're fantastic live. When this all dies down and we progress toward more normal times I'll definitely keep an eye out for tickets and shows near me. Would have been keen before but knowing they're that good makes me want to lock it in.

I'd be curious to know your suggestions for others in the genre too. It's not one I've (knowingly) explored at all so would be good to spread myself a little wider on it.
Check out Neal Francis, his album Changes is that same sort retrosoul feel.
 
yeah man. there are just some bands that are incredible in a live setting but can seem rather lifeless on record. just as there are bands that are great on record but can't put on a live show. it makes those artists/bands that put out great albums and amazing live shows extra special.
I wouldn't call the album lifeless, I think they recorded it before they had really worked it all out... I mean this, right here is something:
 
I wouldn't call the album lifeless, I think they recorded it before they had really worked it all out... I mean this, right here is something:

I know this conversation is sort of centered around Black Pumas, but that comment wasn't really directed specifically at them. though if we're going to hold that comment against Black Pumas then countering with a live performance doesn't really vindicate the studio recording.
 
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I know this conversation is sort of centered around Black Pumas, but that comment wasn't really directed specifically at them. though if we're going to hold that comment against Black Pumas then countering with a live performance doesn't really vindicate the studio recording.
Is it really live though? Also, it’s basically a different song now.
 
Also, my point was that I think they’ve evolved. They were basically brand new when they recorded the album. They’ve done quite a few new versions of things in the studio since and they’ve definitely taken what they’ve learned from the road and as they’ve evolved into a band instead of just a duo.
 
Is it really live though? Also, it’s basically a different song now.
I would say it's a live performance and I'm not sure what else it could be called.

I know that some bands record songs live, playing together in full for their albums (must likely with some overdubs) rather than tracking each instrument individually. I know that's how Khruangbin records and I wouldn't classify those albums as "live albums" so it may sound like I'm being contradictory, but that Fallon performance isn't a studio recording.
 
Go see them live if you get a chance. I like the album, it’s good retro soul but I think it’s a little bit safe personally, there are other artists pushing the boundaries of that genre a bit more for me. But live is just wow, they are a killer live act, one of the best that I’ve seen in a long long time.

My gf and I saw them live back in September before they really blew up at a small venue in Charlottesville VA. We arrived super early to grab dinner and beer before the show and met the guys as they were coming in to get ready. They were super nice and humble, which makes me like them that much more. They actually thanked us several times for coming and asked how we found out about them and were really engaging, not just "hi and bye". They were nice enough to sign an album cover and inner which picture I really like. The show was amazing! We have tickets to see them at Stubbs here in Austin (where we live now) which was originally scheduled to be back in May, who knows when it will happen now...
BTW the way the hoppy pale ale in the previous post was delicious!
IMG_2875.jpegHere's a photo of us with Eric too.
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This part is actually kinda funny. Rudy De Anda opened up for them and when we walked in he was standing by the merch table and looked up and pointed at me. I realized we were both repping matching Colemine/Plaidroom shirts! He's a chill dude and cant wait for his new album to drop soon!
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Also, my point was that I think they’ve evolved. They were basically brand new when they recorded the album. They’ve done quite a few new versions of things in the studio since and they’ve definitely taken what they’ve learned from the road and as they’ve evolved into a band instead of just a duo.
good to hear. I stated earlier that they only have one album and we're comparing them to other artists with a few records (and tours) under their belts which can certainly allow for growth and expansion. I'm not necessarily knocking Black Pumas for being who they are, I just sometimes find myself wondering what my disconnect is from something that others are truly enamored with. but like with so many artists I just chalk it up to that it's just my opinion.
 
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