Pre-Order Thread

in general i'm a fan of label i do agree the jackets could be a lot higher quality but MOV has said many times they work directly with the label that originally released the album.
That’s good to know. Then my question would be, why don’t the labels they work with just do the pressing? I could understand if MOV handles European and the original label handles US manufacturing & distro, but the current operation feels weird. Especially when you potentially will have both an MOV and a label pressing somewhere down the line. Chalk it up to my lack of knowledge of the industry I suppose.
 
I know they're considered legit, but to me it always feels like there is a disconnect between the music MOV is pressing and the band itself and whether they are able to distribute through their own means (band site, via the original label, etc). I thought I had read somewhere that MOV operates around some very leniant European licensing laws. They've only been around for a little over a decade. Just something has always felt off to me about them. And their record jackets, I just don't like 'em.
MOV is legit, but they don’t always have access to decent masters, let alone the original ones and the masteting work they do/have done is passable but not really noteworthy at all. They also tend to deal much more in the administrative space, working with licensing and labels than the artist themselves.

But comparing the to Plain/4MWB is mean. Their work is definitely better than that.
 
I’d also say the same about plain and 4 Men With Beards. They’re considered legit but where’s the connection to the band? Just feels disingenuous.
That’s good to know. Then my question would be, why don’t the labels they work with just do the pressing? I could understand if MOV handles European and the original label handles US manufacturing & distro, but the current operation feels weird. Especially when you potentially will have both an MOV and a label pressing somewhere down the line. Chalk it up to my lack of knowledge of the industry I suppose.
they're labels that specialize in reissuing records.for what ever reason the original label doesn't feel like reissuing something probably cause they probably have many times already.they can let these companies reissue these albums and sit back collect money a win win for the major label.tho i don't completely agree with your opinion i can see where your coming from.
 
they're labels that specialize in reissuing records.for what ever reason the original label doesn't feel like reissuing something probably cause they probably have many times already.they can let these companies reissue these albums and sit back collect money a win win for the major label.tho i don't agree with your opinion i can see where your coming from.
At this point it’s less of an opinion and more of a thought process in hopes of achieving a well established opinion based on facts, so this discussion definitely is helping me shape that.
 
At this point it’s less of an opinion and more of a thought process in hopes of achieving a well established opinion based on facts, so this discussion definitely is helping me shape that.
One more thought about this and then I'll move on. I think my disconnect here could be attributed to marketing. Plenty of retailers these days have "exclusives" (Newbury, VMP, Zia, Bullmoose), and are marketed as such. Would it be appropriate to label an MOV as a 'pressing' exclusive of sorts? I don't know, I don't know. OK gonna start drinking now.
 
One more thought about this and then I'll move on. I think my disconnect here could be attributed to marketing. Plenty of retailers these days have "exclusives" (Newbury, VMP, Zia, Bullmoose), and are marketed as such. Would it be appropriate to label an MOV as a 'pressing' exclusive of sorts? I don't know, I don't know. OK gonna start drinking now.
i don't know i guess you could if the vinyl was a color variant not available/offered by any other label.they label/market some of their albums mostly color variants as "limited", but to me that sounds kind of lame kind of like VMP "exclusive". 🤣
 
Then my question would be, why don’t the labels they work with just do the pressing? ...but the current operation feels weird.
But does MFSL feel weird? Analogue Productions? I'm not comparing the quality - although I consider MOV quite good (just not the audiophile qual of the former two). But they, too, are not the labels. These companies purchase the rights to press stuff, so it's not like the rights-holders are left w/ their proverbial dicks in their proverbial hands. I'd say these companies provide a service in so much that they may be pressing stuff that a label just doesn't want to sink the cost into.
 
Tom Petty's Wildflowers tour was my first proper rock concert experience. Saw the vinyl at the merch booth and actually considered getting it but balked mainly because I did not want to hold onto the vinyl in an outdoor venue in the heat. If I knew then what I later learned I would have taken a loan and bought the booth out and walked that shit back to the truck.
 
Thanks, definitely a fantastic album worth owning and $22 is a fantastic price
Been listening
Gah! Paid $2 for the instant dowload :D
Been listening to my download of this [Silver Jews - American Water] and I'm surprised by how much it sounds like it could be a Pavement or Malkmus and the Jicks album. Glad I sprung for the vinyl!
 
Been listening

Been listening to my download of this [Silver Jews - American Water] and I'm surprised by how much it sounds like it could be a Pavement or Malkmus and the Jicks album. Glad I sprung for the vinyl!
I’m sure you’re aware but Stephen Malkmus plays on this record too and even wrote a couple songs if I’m not mistaken. Such a fantastic album.
 
Tom Petty's Wildflowers tour was my first proper rock concert experience. Saw the vinyl at the merch booth and actually considered getting it but balked mainly because I did not want to hold onto the vinyl in an outdoor venue in the heat. If I knew then what I later learned I would have taken a loan and bought the booth out and walked that shit back to the truck.
But then you would have missed the concert. I guess you could have listened from the parking lot.
 
I knew that he played on it but hadn't realized he wrote some of the songs. The overall sound is very Pavement-like, which is just fine by me. Agreed, great album.

I rarely comment here anymore, but Silver Jews was overlooked, because it was inaccurately dismissed as a Pavement side project. Nastanovich and Malkmus were both in the group, when it started, but they were also trying to give Berman the support to get his stuff out there. American Water is Malkmus heavy. They're all on Starlight Walker. They make appearances on Tanglewood Numbers, too.
 
I loved the Petty Live Anthology box set so much that I auto-pre-ordered the American Treasure box set. The quality of both packages is great but the latter set confirmed for me that I don’t need Petty unreleased/alternate take/bonus material. I especially don’t need to pay $80-500 for it. IMO, his studio output is so good that there’s enough of a disparity between what was officially released and what was held back for me to be happy with just streaming the unreleased stuff.
How is the sound quality on the live vinyl?? I love the sets but have been hesitant making the purchase. Would love any feedback from you or the group!
 
Tom Petty's Wildflowers tour was my first proper rock concert experience. Saw the vinyl at the merch booth and actually considered getting it but balked mainly because I did not want to hold onto the vinyl in an outdoor venue in the heat. If I knew then what I later learned I would have taken a loan and bought the booth out and walked that shit back to the truck.

I once saw 3 people buy out the posters for a Decemberists/Andrew Bird show and then walk to the parking lot. the venue had a no reentry policy. They bought tickets just to flip posters.
 
MOV is legit, but they don’t always have access to decent masters, let alone the original ones and the masteting work they do/have done is passable but not really noteworthy at all. They also tend to deal much more in the administrative space, working with licensing and labels than the artist themselves.

But comparing the to Plain/4MWB is mean. Their work is definitely better than that.
Source?
 
Tom Petty's Wildflowers tour was my first proper rock concert experience. Saw the vinyl at the merch booth and actually considered getting it but balked mainly because I did not want to hold onto the vinyl in an outdoor venue in the heat. If I knew then what I later learned I would have taken a loan and bought the booth out and walked that shit back to the truck.
I remember seeing The Powers That B in a record store and holding it in my hands and came very close to getting it but I felt the price was a bit much and already had quite a bit in my hands. I got NLDW instead, it was cheaper. I managed to get TPTB for $25.98 online later down the line so it worked out but both of those are "what almost wasn't" moments. I never would have imagine those two albums would become so pricey in the next few years. I would be kicking myself so much if I had been in a record store, seen them both for less then $35, and passed only for later to see them both being flipped for twice that (and in TPTB's case, triple that).
 
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