Ethos99
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Maybe. my next question is what record store doesn't "buy direct"?
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Maybe. my next question is what record store doesn't "buy direct"?
JonnyH
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I dont know about this specific case. But with say, sub pop, some stores order direct from sub pop and those are the ones with a steady stream of loser editions. Some stores order sub pop through their normal distributors and they tend to not have loser editions.
Third man is similar.
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Corycm
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More than you think. Small stores are increasingly getting cut out of the major label distribution (cough*anything owned by Sony*cough) and have to use third-party distributors for stock.
Tys1
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I get it buddy, you need more money. Guess what, me too. Peace.
Ethos99
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I had no idea stores had to get stock from so many different sources.
My local let slip he could get a Sub Pop album for about $12 so I thought that was the going rate for single LP's. Started thinking i should open a record store.. Maybe not.
Corycm
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Yep. Guy I know that owned a shop (closed for a few years now) couldn’t compete when Amazon was selling below his cost. Most places, depending on volume, are trying to make 35-40 points on an album. Higher volume you can take the margin hit. Certain, generally smaller labels (like Merge or SubPop) are friendlier to indies and will sell direct which helps retailers keep prices competitive while maintaining the margins - plus other stuff like giveaway items, exclusives, promo swag, etc.
Ethos99
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So now I feel bad that stores are having some challenges, however Vinyl Cup's approach seems a little hostile.
My local will have it for $28.99, and I'm not paying shipping so its a wash.
Corycm
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Oh, for sure. I wasn’t excusing them for that level of profit taking. Luckily not many business take that tack.
POGunter
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Retail on many consumer goods (jewelry and clothing NOT included) is relatively low. An old standard retail markup can be figured by taking cost x 1.67 so
$1 x 1.67 = $1.67
This yields a 40% margin over cost:
$1.67 - 40% = $1
So at Vinyl Cup’s stated cost $18.99. A fair retail price would be $18.99 x 1.67 = $31.70 or $32. So $28 or so is a good price for everyone. Store can make a fair profit and the consumer gets a decent deal.
This sounds like a lot of profit until you start multiplying how many $$$ in gross sales you need to make a profit after labor, rent, and other overhead. This is why used record sales can be so important because the margin can be many times higher if they score a really nice used collection on the cheap.
OTOH For sure the tone of the Vinyl Cup posting sounded a little harsh. And, I’d be worried about the part in Vinyl Cup’s terms warning about taking orders when they are not sure how many copies they will be getting. Every store can sometimes oversell preorders if they get shorted but it is much better to undersell and be able to fill all your orders. That is very bad business if it happens repeatedly.
You will likely forget what you paid a lot faster than you will forget you got shorted out of a record you really wanted that is unobtainable at anywhere close to the original retail price.
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Russ I
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A new Taylor Swift "exclusive":
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Taylor Swift - folklore (Target Exclusive, Vinyl)
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Tys1
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A new Taylor Swift "exclusive":
Taylor Swift - folklore (Target Exclusive, Vinyl)
Read reviews and buy Taylor Swift - folklore (Target Exclusive, Vinyl) at Target. Choose from contactless Same Day Delivery, Drive Up and more.
Of coooooourse they use the same photo as the variant I ordered
mdmost
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Forgive my ignorance, but which artist is this?
Tys1
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King Krule I think
blenoxsmith
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Yup, it is. And the album is "6 Feet Beneath The Moon" which is going to be a TTL exclusive. But we don't know when they will drop it. Could be today, which is not uncommon for them.
Dead C
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If someone remembers to tag me on this, I would be grateful
eatdogs
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Cattledecap - Human Jerky
Getting released on December 4th.
eatdogs
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Swing Kids - Anthology LP
Justin Pierson's old Screamo band before he started The Locust. He was also famous for starting the old Emo Spoke/Romulan haircut which became an old scene staple.
RIYL: Saetia, Antioch Arrow, Heroin, A**factor 4, I Hate Myself, Jerome's Dream, Orchid etc.
duke86fan
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Homecoming: The Live Album
A four-disc vinyl set of Beyoncé’s historic headlining Coachella performance on two weekends in April 2018. Beyoncé was the first African American woman to headline the festival and her performances received immediate widespread acclaim from fans and critics alike for the staging and celebration...
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4LPs and a book..
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53 bucks minus shipping
ThePakoBuelna
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Homecoming: The Live Album
A four-disc vinyl set of Beyoncé’s historic headlining Coachella performance on two weekends in April 2018. Beyoncé was the first African American woman to headline the festival and her performances received immediate widespread acclaim from fans and critics alike for the staging and celebration...
4LPs and a book..
beychella
53 bucks minus shipping
Say hwat?
I hope that's in MXN Pesos
