Pre-Order Thread

Tys1 said:
You basically experienced what I did from the onset which led to my post that you responded to, we’re dogs chasing our tails at this point. I said false advertising is bad,that’s it. Never mentioned fomo or flippers at all but suddenly I found myself defending against it just because I want a company to be honest with its customers. That should be a universally accepted belief and completely independent of a fomo conversation.
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Yeah. I know. That's why I felt like I should respond to exactly what you were saying, even though I knew where it would end up.


wynn72 said:
Thats not “literally” what Im saying here at all.
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wynn72 said:
Its the job of the company to get people to buy. Whether it’s... false advertising..
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Yes. It literally is
 
Tys1 said:
You basically experienced what I did from the onset which led to my post that you responded to, we’re dogs chasing our tails at this point. I said false advertising is bad,that’s it. Never mentioned fomo or flippers at all but suddenly I found myself defending against it just because I want a company to be honest with its customers. That should be a universally accepted belief and completely independent of a fomo conversation.
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These things aren’t mutually exclusive. I think it’s completely reasonable to want a company to be honest or hold true to their word AND be against FOMO and Flipping.
 
From a business view, offering new customers the opportunity to purchases past and sold out records to have the complete set is a good move. I myself started looking after past AotM to try to have all the essentials... How stupid I was... Who wants my Tennis?
 
TenderLovingKiller® said:
These things aren’t mutually exclusive. I think it’s completely reasonable to want a company to be honest or hold true to their word AND be against FOMO and Flipping.
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Yes, they are and you just proved that. You can be

A. Think false advertising is bad but think fomo and flipping is OK
B. Think false advertising is acceptable and think fomo and flipping is OK
C. Think false advertising is bad and fomo and flipping is bad
D. Think false advertising is OK and fomo and flipping is OK

They’re not tied in to each other, if they were you wouldn’t have all 4 of the above options.
 
Lee Newman said:
I am one hundred percent for keeping stuff in print. All I’m saying is don’t say it’s a one time deal if it’s not. Actually, I don’t VMP to repress shit. I’d rather Hooker was given back to impulse and A AAA remaster could be done.
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Cant. I heard a rumour that they were in the fire. Dunno if AP still have the plates to press up another run of theirs.
 
Before you know it we’re all going to start condemning the things that generally brought us together in the first place because we collectively realized that what brought us together is not actually all that important. Canibalistic in way, wicked!
 
Tys1 said:
Yes, they are and you just proved that. You can be

A. Think false advertising is bad but think fomo and flipping is OK
B. Think false advertising is acceptable and think fomo and flipping is OK
C. Think false advertising is bad and fomo and flipping is bad
D. Think false advertising is OK and fomo and flipping is OK

They’re not tied in to each other, if they were you wouldn’t have all 4 of the above options.
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I think we are saying the same thing. My point was that some seem to think that being for honesty automatically assumes you are pro flippers/FOMO. My point was that holding both these beliefs at the same time is valid and not interdependent on one another.

also... “C”
 
Dead C said:
Yeah. I know. That's why I felt like I should respond to exactly what you were saying, even though I knew where it would end up.





Yes. It literally is
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No its “literally” not. If you want to take pieces of two different sentences and combine them together you can certainly make it appear like that though.

First sentence - “Its the job of the company to get people to buy.”
New sentence - “Whether it’s hyperbole, false advertising, a “limited run” that is actually followed by another run, whatever you want to call it, this isnt exclusive to the vinyl industry.”

But whatever, this is forum not a court of law. So let me reiterate in case I phrased it poorly before. Im not endorsing false advertising. I also do not believe this is an example of false advertising, it is somewhat misleading at the worst. Even still, Im not saying its a great practice but its very common and if you fall for it due to fomo or hoping to get a profit, then you must be new to being a consumer.
Ive been a victim of grabbing something due to FOMO many times and when more are made available I blame my own impulsivity not the company who I know at least one of their main goal is to make a buck.
Enjoy your outrage though.
 
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dhodo said:
I think what people commonly forget is that the SPARS code doesn't include transfer. It is recording, mixing, mastering.

Edit: I think it gets a little more complicated since I think some analog mastering is often done while transferring, but not the case with digital.
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I guess that makes sense. 1. They did actively try to kill analog. 2. With the exception of tape - holding it in your hand makes transfer obvious.
 
Lee Newman said:
I guess that makes sense. 1. They did actively try to kill analog. 2. With the exception of tape - holding it in your hand makes transfer obvious.
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I've also seen it described where mastering is defined as "preparing AND transferring" to the source from which copies are produced, which was always true for vinyl as mastering is done while cutting to the lacquer, which is the source of production, whereas in digital mastering the "transfer" is just to a "finished" master file on a hard drive. So perhaps it is incorrect to say that the code "does not include transfer" in that regard.

However, if you go by that definition, then it becomes difficult to define the process where you master in digital and then cut a lacquer from that, mastering again. So for that you would need another letter or an asterisk and the SPARS code seems insufficient to me. I think there's also a studio master before cutting, even in analog, in many cases, which further confuses it.

Edit: maybe not, maybe it's not confusing and even if 99% of things that anyone might call mastering (between mixing and plating) is analog, if 1% is digital then the last letter is a D. I guess that is simple. So a CD could never be AAA, but, you could have the same AAD code for a CD and vinyl for the same release.
 
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