Room Treatments and Speaker Placement

We recently re-arranged our furniture so that now our couch, which used to be against the wall opposite my wall-mounted speakers, is now against the same wall as (i.e., under) the speakers. I feel like conventional wisdom is that I need to move my speakers to the opposite wall, but I actually kind of like the sound I'm hearing sitting so close to the speakers. Am I just being lazy? Am I missing out sonically by sitting under my speakers and not across from them?
 
Jeff Lerner said:
We recently re-arranged our furniture so that now our couch, which used to be against the wall opposite my wall-mounted speakers, is now against the same wall as (i.e., under) the speakers. I feel like conventional wisdom is that I need to move my speakers to the opposite wall, but I actually kind of like the sound I'm hearing sitting so close to the speakers. Am I just being lazy? Am I missing out sonically by sitting under my speakers and not across from them?
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you're probably listening to the reflection of the sound against the opposite wall instead of directly from the speakers themselves!
 
I recently upgraded to new, much larger speakers. On one hand they've been great and on the other they've exposed many issues with my room. I went down the acoustic panel rabbit hole and had good and bad results. Woodworking is a hobby of mine and I made some simple frames and used this stuff: https://www.lowes.com/pd/Owens-Corn...d-Sound-Guard-3-in-x-15-in-x-47-in/5001729147 Locally it's $13 cheaper than Home Depot. Two panels on the side walls worked best for me. I tried two on the ceiling and it killed the imaging. I've got a few other batts wrapped in old bedsheets that I move from time to time for experiments.

As a woodworking hobbyist I watch a bunch of different guys on youtube. John Heisz is brilliant. Sometimes a bit brash. Anyhow, he recently changed one of his channels to audio related topics. This room is just flat out insane.
 
scorpio333 said:
I recently upgraded to new, much larger speakers. On one hand they've been great and on the other they've exposed many issues with my room. I went down the acoustic panel rabbit hole and had good and bad results. Woodworking is a hobby of mine and I made some simple frames and used this stuff: https://www.lowes.com/pd/Owens-Corn...d-Sound-Guard-3-in-x-15-in-x-47-in/5001729147 Locally it's $13 cheaper than Home Depot. Two panels on the side walls worked best for me. I tried two on the ceiling and it killed the imaging. I've got a few other batts wrapped in old bedsheets that I move from time to time for experiments.

As a woodworking hobbyist I watch a bunch of different guys on youtube. John Heisz is brilliant. Sometimes a bit brash. Anyhow, he recently changed one of his channels to audio related topics. This room is just flat out insane.
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do NOT let @Mather see this.
 
Timely subject for me. I have the opportunity to move my listening space from my 10'x10' room into a loft space that is 16'x 10' that my wife has been using as her workspace. She would prefer the smaller 10 x 10 room. Here's a couple pics of the loft space.. pretend the furniture is
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Before I even consider taking this on, I’m curious to know if anyone has any experience setting up a 2 channel setup in a space like this and could share set up advice.

My apparent options:

1. Leave seating position where the couch is, with speakers on window wall. Could set up a nice triangle of 80-90 inches. Curious how not really having a back wall would effect sound? Clearly going to leak to the downstairs, but not really concerned with that.

2. Flip the above and set up speakers by the loft railing and put the couch near the window wall. Speakers could breathe but wiring and placement of components would be problematic.

3. Set up speakers on one of the short walls (can't really see in pics, but there is about 9.5 feet to the right of that door, mirrored on the other side of the room) and place seating position into the room to form a triangle. Would likely aid in rear reflections since I'd have around 6-8' behind my seating position.

So my questions.. would you make the move at all, and if so what setup would you be most likely to try first?

Thanks in advance!
 
displayname said:
I looked at a lot of DIY in process of considering my options. So many people love doing these projects. I don't so much. I decided even if it's a few hundred dollars cheaper to make your own, my time (and frustration levels) are worth the cash for me in this case.

But if you have access to the tools and want to put in the time, DIY is the most economic and most customizable option by far.
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I look forward to your thoughts on the treatments.. hope they work out!!
 
Slimwhit33 said:
Timely subject for me. I have the opportunity to move my listening space from my 10'x10' room into a loft space that is 16'x 10' that my wife has been using as her workspace. She would prefer the smaller 10 x 10 room. Here's a couple pics of the loft space.. pretend the furniture is
gone...
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Before I even consider taking this on, I’m curious to know if anyone has any experience setting up a 2 channel setup in a space like this and could share set up advice.

My apparent options:

1. Leave seating position where the couch is, with speakers on window wall. Could set up a nice triangle of 80-90 inches. Curious how not really having a back wall would effect sound? Clearly going to leak to the downstairs, but not really concerned with that.

2. Flip the above and set up speakers by the loft railing and put the couch near the window wall. Speakers could breathe but wiring and placement of components would be problematic.

3. Set up speakers on one of the short walls (can't really see in pics, but there is about 9.5 feet to the right of that door, mirrored on the other side of the room) and place seating position into the room to form a triangle. Would likely aid in rear reflections since I'd have around 6-8' behind my seating position.

So my questions.. would you make the move at all, and if so what setup would you be most likely to try first?

Thanks in advance!
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That's a pretty nice room upgrade!. Most say you want to run your speakers the longest length of the room for best sound. This room is a bit more complicated with the stairwell and slanted ceiling so you may just want to clear it out and try the long way and the short (nearfield) way, experiment with toe in, and distance from side and back walls and see which sounds best to your ears but I "think" the long way is going to be best as it will allow your Forte's to breath best. Then you can see if you need any room treatments. Sometimes you get lucky and a couch, and carpeting is all you need.
 
Can anyone attest to the difference that having a rug in front of your speakers makes?
 
Slimwhit33 said:
Timely subject for me. I have the opportunity to move my listening space from my 10'x10' room into a loft space that is 16'x 10' that my wife has been using as her workspace. She would prefer the smaller 10 x 10 room. Here's a couple pics of the loft space.. pretend the furniture is
gone...
View attachment 113654View attachment 113655

Before I even consider taking this on, I’m curious to know if anyone has any experience setting up a 2 channel setup in a space like this and could share set up advice.

My apparent options:

1. Leave seating position where the couch is, with speakers on window wall. Could set up a nice triangle of 80-90 inches. Curious how not really having a back wall would effect sound? Clearly going to leak to the downstairs, but not really concerned with that.

2. Flip the above and set up speakers by the loft railing and put the couch near the window wall. Speakers could breathe but wiring and placement of components would be problematic.

3. Set up speakers on one of the short walls (can't really see in pics, but there is about 9.5 feet to the right of that door, mirrored on the other side of the room) and place seating position into the room to form a triangle. Would likely aid in rear reflections since I'd have around 6-8' behind my seating position.

So my questions.. would you make the move at all, and if so what setup would you be most likely to try first?

Thanks in advance!
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I'd go with option one.
  • Either of the short walls would result in inconsistencies in frequency response between your left and right channels, as one would have an uninterrupted sidewall and the other would not (ask me how I know).
  • The Fortes like having a surface behind them for bass reinforcement.
  • Having room behind your head without a direct reflection is desirable.
 
kvetcha said:
I'd go with option one.
  • Either of the short walls would result in inconsistencies in frequency response between your left and right channels, as one would have an uninterrupted sidewall and the other would not (ask me how I know).
  • The Fortes like having a surface behind them for bass reinforcement.
  • Having room behind your head without a direct reflection is desirable.
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Looking around up there today and option 1 is by far the best for placement of albums/equipment, etc... my left and right will be 9 ft walls for bookshelves and album storage. You are correct about the side wall speaker distance issues with the long way setup. Depending on which side of the room I used, one speaker would be within a foot of a wall, and the other would be at least 4 ft one the one side, and open to the loft on the other..
 
Slimwhit33 said:
I look forward to your thoughts on the treatments.. hope they work out!!
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I’ll tell you that the communication from GIK has been pretty weak. After two weeks I asked when I would get an estimated ship date. They said 9/15.
On 9/17 I asked again because I still didn’t have a shipping notice. They said the fabric wasn’t in, but it was scheduled to come in the next week, and would ship same week (so by today).
But so far, no word yet.

I’m less annoyed by waiting and more annoyed by missed shipped dates. And the fact that I have to keep asking for updates. Each time they’ve said “you should have gotten an email.” I haven’t gotten a single update without asking for one, which is frustrating. If they would have told me 90 days to front, I would have thought “ok, COVID delays, no big deal.” But this constant missing of ship dates is a little frustrating. I wish they’d just give me an honest answer.

I put in the order on Aug 4th, so it’s been 8 weeks now.
 
displayname said:
I’ll tell you that the communication from GIK has been pretty weak. After two weeks I asked when I would get an estimated ship date. They said 9/15.
On 9/17 I asked again because I still didn’t have a shipping notice. They said the fabric wasn’t in, but it was scheduled to come in the next week, and would ship same week (so by today).
But so far, no word yet.

I’m less annoyed by waiting and more annoyed by missed shipped dates. And the fact that I have to keep asking for updates. Each time they’ve said “you should have gotten an email.” I haven’t gotten a single update without asking for one, which is frustrating. If they would have told me 90 days to front, I would have thought “ok, COVID delays, no big deal.” But this constant missing of ship dates is a little frustrating. I wish they’d just give me an honest answer.

I put in the order on Aug 4th, so it’s been 8 weeks now.
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That's no good.. they should at least be communicating the delays. Everything is f'ed from a shipping standpoint right now, I'm not even a little surprised about the delays anymore. We have been planning a kitchen reno for years. Finally ordered everything in June.. November was the earliest we were told we'd get the cabinets or appliances. I am the opposite of patient typically, but i've kinda thrown my hands up about this and going with the flow. But communication has been consistent which has made it easier.
 
Slimwhit33 said:
That's no good.. they should at least be communicating the delays. Everything is f'ed from a shipping standpoint right now, I'm not even a little surprised about the delays anymore. We have been planning a kitchen reno for years. Finally ordered everything in June.. November was the earliest we were told we'd get the cabinets or appliances. I am the opposite of patient typically, but i've kinda thrown my hands up about this and going with the flow. But communication has been consistent which has made it easier.
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Yup, my real beef is completely missing the dates and having to pull teeth to get answers. Give me some updates and I’ll just say bummer and keep on spinning
 
This is all very cool. I wish I could do room treatments but... It's the main livingroom in my house, not gunna fly. But my room correction suite pretty much does the same thing so I don't think it's all that necessary for me.

There's my uncorrected room wave, and then the target curve with the now corrected wave underneath it...

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Sigh... another day, another delay.

Following what has become the GIK template, they once again did not provide any updates by the expected ship date. And once again I emailed them to see what was going on. They've at least confirmed by fabric is now in, but it's at the new location. Apparently they are moving offices.

Fingers crossed we'll actually get something shipped out this week.
 
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