STAR WARS! STAR WARS! STAR WARS

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I'm not a Star Wars fan boy, I think it's great, but I can live without it. I also didn't see the original movies in english until I was in high school, I watched them dubbed in spanish...
with that being said, some of my favorites are Empire Strikes Back, Revenge of the Sith, Rogue One, and The Last Jedi. I freakin love Rogue One
I also greatly enjoyed The Mandalorian, thought it was great, it has actually wanted me to deep dive into the Star Wars universe and find out more about it.
 
Woob_woob said:
But with all we know of the universe at this period of time who else would come to teach baby yoda? There are maybe 5 Jedis left and 2 are Skywalkers and one was already in the show. The cgi was bad, but the choice makes the most sense imo as Luke is the only one of those remaining Jedis that is actively looking to teach new Jedis.

Also its a small guest spot and not a new addition to the show, so I fail to see how its jumping the shark?
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I agree. The show seems to finally have somewhere to go, not jumping the shark at all. Do you want to see another season of Din and Grogu just bouncing from planet to planet, trying to find ‘his kind’? Honestly I am stoked that Grogu will have some development, because two seasons without major growth is noticeable.
With the new series announced, it seems like they are really fleshing out this era of Star Wars, and I am all for it.
 
And don’t forget his parting words to Crogu ...”Don’t be afraid” ...where does fear lead....we all know !

That little stick shift ball from the blown up ship may play a part some where down the line too ...
 
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Lee Newman said:
I’ve learned to ignore the negative criticisms of Star Wars. The fans are way too invested and have an overblown sense of entitlement.
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I think it's disingenuous to label all criticisms of Star Was as the rantings of crazed fans. I am not a rabid Star Wars fanboy (like the new trilogy mostly fine besides the third one which was just poorly done) and all media should be open to critiques. It's worse to just be like "LET ME ENJOY MY STORIES" and deflect any criticism, valid or not. I mean what are you defending billion dollar industries from critics or fans? Good job?
 
gouis said:
I think it's disingenuous to label all criticisms of Star Was as the rantings of crazed fans. I am not a rabid Star Wars fanboy (like the new trilogy mostly fine besides the third one which was just poorly done) and all media should be open to critiques. It's worse to just be like "LET ME ENJOY MY STORIES" and deflect any criticism, valid or not. I mean what are you defending billion dollar industries from critics or fans? Good job?
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I don’t disagree. I just feel way too many people spend way too much time on every little bit of the Star Wars stuff.

the whole complaint that Boba and Luke and Ahsoka showed up in Lone Wolf and Cub set in Star Wars messed up the originality of a Lone Wolf and Cub series set in Star Wars is laughable. I want Luke to show up and be a bad ass.

The fact that people are complaining about some Mandolorian character I had never even heard of is ludicrous to me. Especially considering that Star Wars are really meant to be escapist kids fare. It’s always been derivative and it’s always been about playing to the fans.

that’s what gets tiresome. I’m not against criticism. I just think the criticism around Star Wars in particular has become vile and it’s lost its meaning to me.

I am never going to be one that is going to feel good about people enjoying something and then other people inhibiting that joy.

if that’s me saying “let me enjoy my stories” then so be it.

part of reading critical writing is knowing the critic and it’s become hard to take the criticism of Star Wars seriously.
 
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Lee Newman said:
I don’t disagree. I just feel way too many people spend way too much time on every little bit of the Star Wars stuff.

the whole complaint that Boba and Luke and Ahsoka showed up in Lone Wolf and Cub set in Star Wars messed up the originality of a Lone Wolf and Cub series set in Star Wars laughable. I want Luke to show up and be a bad ass.

The fact that people are complaining about some Mandolorian character I had never even heard of is ludicrous to me. Especially considering that Star Wars are really meant to be escapist kids fare. It’s always been derivative and it’s always been about playing to the fans.

that’s what gets tiresome. I’m not against criticism. I just think the criticism around Star Wars in particular has become vile and it’s lost its meaning to me.

I am never going to be one that is going to feel good about people enjoying something and then other people inhibiting that joy.

if that’s me saying “let me enjoy my stories” then so be it.

part of reading critical writing is knowing the critic and it’s become hard to take the criticism of Star Wars seriously.
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That’s on you if you think every criticism of Star Wars is in bad faith. There are tons of diaper babies that complain endlessly about Star Wars online. I just don’t see any of that here.
 
gouis said:
That’s on you if you think every criticism of Star Wars is in bad faith. There are tons of diaper babies that complain endlessly about Star Wars online. I just don’t see any of that here.
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It’s on you if you think I singled you or any other member out in either of my comments. I never said all of it is. Enough of it is that I’ve just started to ignore it.
 
I got around to watching the final ep and
I am certainly surprised that, considering the big complaint many (not me) had about the season/series was the lack of forward movement, how quickly the supposed main mission (save Grogu, defeat Gideon, reunite Grogu with Jedi) was completed. I honestly expected this to simply drag on with incremental progress for seasons and seasons, and I would’ve been fine with it.

So I’m curious to see what the next thing looks like. Maybe S3 jumps ahead to Kylo trashing the temple and Mando reuniting with Grogu. Or Mando never sees Grogu again, period (except for when he comes back for the season 3 finale), and .

But I’m worried fan service is going to reign. The finale was rife with it, beyond Luke (who was fine); the Darksaber and who has the right to wield it was ballyhooed about to an extent I simply did not care about. And I’ve said it before, but I just don’t want to see a “continuation” of Boba Fett’s “story.” I just don’t see value in him sitting on Jabba’s throne beyond fan service.
 
mdmost said:
You're not going to like the future crossover event where all the shows come together to take on the Big Bad, a la Avengers.
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100% this is what's happening. It's a different plan than the MCU since these are starting as TV shows, but it's the same rough idea.

It's also just borrowed from comic books that pulls this shit all the time. Make you feel like you have to keep up with all the individual titles so you can fully engage with the 'big event'.
 
gouis said:
100% this is what's happening. It's a different plan than the MCU since these are starting as TV shows, but it's the same rough idea.

It's also just borrowed from comic books that pulls this shit all the time. Make you feel like you have to keep up with all the individual titles so you can fully engage with the 'big event'.
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Wasn't the big crossover event for the three series already announced? I liked how the avenger pulled it off over years of films building up to the infinity war. I mean starwars did not manage to do it over two consecutive films in the sequels. we talked about how rise did away with lords from last Jedi but though I liked last jedi same can be said about that movie with regard to the force awakens. The writing felt like one of those games where you tell a story with everyone having one sentence and it's fun to do something weird to see where the next one goes with it.
 
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Jan said:
Wasn't the big crossover event for the three series already announced? I liked how the avenger pulled it off over years of films building up to the infinity war. I mean starwars did not manage to do it over two consecutive films in the sequels. we talked about how rise did away with lords from last Jedi but though I liked talk first same can be said about that movie with regard to the force awakens. The writing felt like one of those games where you tell a story with everyone having one sentence and it's fun to do something weird to see where the next one goes with it.
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I never quite jibed with the 1:1 comparison there; all the subversions Last Jedi committed were just that: yes-and-ing the story threads from TFA with what indeed were left-turns or subversions of expectations, but continuations nonetheless. The ball didn't go where we expected, but it stayed in the air. Rise of Skywalker had its fingers firmly plugged in its ears, "nya nya I can't hear you"-ing stuff from Last Jedi. It didn't even seem interested in continuing threads/themes/ideas from TFA. It took the ball and spiked it into the nearest bowl of chowder.
 
Bull Shannon said:
I never quite jibed with the 1:1 comparison there; all the subversions Last Jedi committed were just that: yes-and-ing the story threads from TFA with what indeed were left-turns or subversions of expectations, but continuations nonetheless. The ball didn't go where we expected, but it stayed in the air. Rise of Skywalker had its fingers firmly plugged in its ears, "nya nya I can't hear you"-ing stuff from Last Jedi. It didn't even seem interested in continuing threads/themes/ideas from TFA. It took the ball and spiked it into the nearest bowl of chowder.
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I generally agree, but I think overall the sequel trilogy could have massively benefited if one had settled for a common tone and story arc
 
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