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Im down to the last episode of Gotham now and have actually really enjoyed it as a series. I feel like the storylines and characters became more cartoony as the series progressed (I think I preferred the more gritty/believable character arc's at the beginning) but I still think they did a good job. With that being said there was a few things in this penultimate episode that really irked me:

The part when all GCPD were at the top of the barricade looking down at Bane and his men and everyone opened fire, yet no one was hit. They couldn't have thrown a gun and not hit one of them so how on earth are we meant to believe a hail of bullets from both sides didn't hit anyone?

When Gordon handcuffed himself to Nyssa al Ghul before Barbara stabbed her, yet she then mysteriously slips the handcuff a second later to run away? I thought this was a slip-up at first but cant see how that could have been possible seeing that there was no time for her to have unlocked them, especially seeing as she was firmly cuffed for the whole scene before AND stabbed!

Just before the scene transitions when Gordon becomes Commissioner some ominous music plays as he looks across the crowd. I re-watched and paused but for the life of me cannot see what was supposed to be highlighted. I might be getting ahead of myself as I still have the finale, but I really did struggle to see anything.

After building a story and relationship with Selina across 5 seasons, and knowing that she has been abandoned by everyone in the past, it seems pretty cold for Bruce just to leave a note. Again, I might be jumping ahead but it just shows an incredible lack of awareness to do that.

Not sure if anyone here has watched the series and has any thoughts?
 
I finally got around to finishing the final season of Schitt's Creek. I know many of the critical plaudits and awards are more a result of the show's growing fanbase, and the cast deserves all the praise, but I was really surprised how weak the season was.

I just found it so strange that the show, whose appeal lies mainly in the audience and characters growing to appreciate the town and its residents, as well as slowly sand the rough edges of entitlement and social climbing of the Roses...it's just weird that the final season put so much stock in trying to get rich and move from Schitt's Creek for good. It felt really weird that a show savvy enough to pin its best moments on the emotional growth of its characters suddenly turn around and serve them an ending they'd ostensibly grown past.

Ending a sitcom is always a weird thing; part of the appeal of many sitcoms is the stasis, the way you can just drop in and the characters will always be there. I feel like it's rare for a sitcom to have a finale (deliberately, not just due to cancelation) that leaves the characters right where we left them instead of charting new paths for their foreseeable futures.

Again, it's still Schitt's Creek, so I'm basically complaining about a free pizza; I still enjoyed it.
 
Bull Shannon said:
I finally got around to finishing the final season of Schitt's Creek. I know many of the critical plaudits and awards are more a result of the show's growing fanbase, and the cast deserves all the praise, but I was really surprised how weak the season was.

I just found it so strange that the show, whose appeal lies mainly in the audience and characters growing to appreciate the town and its residents, as well as slowly sand the rough edges of entitlement and social climbing of the Roses...it's just weird that the final season put so much stock in trying to get rich and move from Schitt's Creek for good. It felt really weird that a show savvy enough to pin its best moments on the emotional growth of its characters suddenly turn around and serve them an ending they'd ostensibly grown past.

Ending a sitcom is always a weird thing; part of the appeal of many sitcoms is the stasis, the way you can just drop in and the characters will always be there. I feel like it's rare for a sitcom to have a finale (deliberately, not just due to cancelation) that leaves the characters right where we left them instead of charting new paths for their foreseeable futures.

Again, it's still Schitt's Creek, so I'm basically complaining about a free pizza; I still enjoyed it.
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I feel like David had the appropriate ending at least, but yeah, you make a good point otherwise.
 
I was disappointed in the last season of Schitt’s Creek too. They seemed to want to end it quietly with some mature character growth but, as noted above, it was in service of “being rich again but doing it better this time with some perspective” instead of showing that they were fully investing in their new lives as middle/lower class members of a strange but close knit special place. All in all, good shows have ended things much worse so I was ultimately satisfied and still think it’s a great show beginning to end. ✌🏽
 
I’m not really sure how else they could play it without betraying either the town or the characters in some way. Moira and Johnny were always going to want to return to the life they knew, and I’m not sure there’s any way they commit to staying in town without fundamentally changing Schitt’s Creek as a place, which would have felt equally wrong. I was fine with each component of the family ultimately representing a different ambition: the elder Roses return to what made them successful, but with a renewed sense of perspective and a love of family that never really had space to exist before; Alexis realizes her squandered potential as something other than a spoiled rich girl, learns to actually love another person, and experiences true heartbreak in a way she’s never been able to comprehend before; David realizes that all of his scrabbling for social position and success came not from ambition but from fear, and that he could find contentment in the unconditional love of one person, rather than the fickle, shallow love of many.

Tricky juggling act, but I think ultimately it remained true to each character rather than forcing them to accept a unified fate just for the sake of a happy ending. It was never going to make sense for all of them to stay together forever - part of the family’s growth lies in the kids finally having the wherewithal (and life skills) to leave the nest.

And that’s without even mentioning Stevie, someone who, feeling hopelessly trapped in a shitty life, built up walls to keep herself from truly knowing other people. But gradually she comes to see the Roses as family, and begins to understand that she’s more than a grump with a crummy motel, that there is value in opening up to others, and that it’s okay for her (hell, that she deserves) to want more.
 
Started getting into some British shows. Taskmaster rules. I have heard about it off and on for a while but I finally started it (from the newest season) and I am loving it. Also big fan of QI now. Watching the newest season of that one too. Both are really nice distractions but also just genuinely fun shows.
 
Season 2 of A Discovery of Witches is here!!! Finally. I can't wait. Binge watching Season 1 again today because it's been so long.

Season 2 premieres on Sky on January 8th. Then will be on AMC+ / Sundance Now / Shudder on January 9th.
 
We've been watching Bridgerton, the new Netflix Shonda Rhimes show. Victorian era Britain with a modern twist (diverse casting and POC in positions of power). My wife is in the bag for anything Shonda, but I've been sucked in to it as well.
 
wokeupnew said:
Rewatching Mad Men via my DVDs of the show feels so weird. It’s on streaming but popping in a disc instantly brings me back. I have a lot of tv shows on DVDs because I got into a lot of TV late 00s/early 10s and that was my hobby back then.
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We just finished rewatching the series. I am in the same boat regarding DVDs. TBH, I sold off the vast majority of my DVD except for some of my all time favorites. I held on to my Mad Men’s DVDs the first 4 or 5 seasons (though I no longer have a DVD player) the first season is the zippo box and the 2nd season is the shirt box if I recall correctly.
 
TenderLovingKiller® said:
We just finished rewatching the series. I am in the same boat regarding DVDs. TBH, I sold off the vast majority of my DVD except for some of my all time favorites. I held on to my Mad Men’s DVDs the first 4 or 5 seasons (though I no longer have a DVD player) the first season is the zippo box and the 2nd season is the shirt box if I recall correctly.
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Yup I have the first 5 seasons only. Got them all for Christmas one year. I think the seasons after that I didn’t want to buy them myself after streaming becoming the new thing.

I would probably sell some DVDs if they had more value. I do like having them on the shelf just to show. I sold the entire series of Friends on DVD for like $40 way back in 2016. I also got it for Christmas one year but by that point I was kind of over that show so I didn’t need. I think my parents paid like $100 for it at least 😱
 
wokeupnew said:
Rewatching Mad Men via my DVDs of the show feels so weird. It’s on streaming but popping in a disc instantly brings me back. I have a lot of tv shows on DVDs because I got into a lot of TV late 00s/early 10s and that was my hobby back then.
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Yeah exactly the same here. I did end up selling pretty much all of my tv series dvds..with some exceptions. I just got the complete Office cause I knew it would be leaving Netflix. I used to have most of them individually. I also got the complete Parks and Rec cause I knew I wanted to have it... Anyway, I still own all my Mad Men sets. But I weirdly never bought the final final season so I have only seen that one like once when it aired.
 
kvetcha said:
I’ve been rewatching Mad Men with my father and it is only reinforcing my opinion that it’s one of the best shows ever made.
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Agreed, Even after watching it all the way through 3 times prior I was still picking up things I had missed while going through Mad Men for a fourth time. I think once you know the characters and main plot well you can focus more on their interactions nuances that you miss initially while figuring those things out. I noticed the same thing during my recent rewatches of Deadwood, Mad Men, Sopranos, Band Of Brothers and currently The Wire. Great TV get even better the more you rewatch it.
 
wokeupnew said:
Rewatching Mad Men via my DVDs of the show feels so weird. It’s on streaming but popping in a disc instantly brings me back. I have a lot of tv shows on DVDs because I got into a lot of TV late 00s/early 10s and that was my hobby back then.
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This is the way of the future (once again). I always snag a stack on dvds when I'm at half price books. I'm at the point where I'm sick of scouring streaming services for individual shows or movies. A lot of stuff isn't even available! Fuck that.
 
ayayrawn said:
This is the way of the future (once again). I always snag a stack on dvds when I'm at half price books. I'm at the point where I'm sick of scouring streaming services for individual shows or movies. A lot of stuff isn't even available! Fuck that.
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I have an external hard drive and torrent for that. Like this past weekend I wanted to watch the first 3 Indiana Jones movies but couldn’t find them on any streaming service so I just popped the HDMI in to the TV and was good to go.
 
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