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Teeeee said:
Season 1 was excellent and must see TV.

Season 2 was a drop off in quality. And because of that, I'm ok with it now being canceled.

However, I would just like a streaming platform to put out shows and STICK with them. These 1 and 2 season shows that then get canceled are really irritating.

Edit: I was talking about Patriot, not Perpetual Grace. And I know I might have just confused everyone. Oops.
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Yes I meant Perpetual Grace is on my watchlist. I watched S1 of the Patriot and really liked it, S2 was fine.
 
Aelias said:
Looking forward to it, I just got caught up on the last few episodes last night. I'm going to miss it but I think it's run its course, I'll probably start rewatching from season 1 in the next week or so.
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I agree, it's run its course, not in a bad way, but I think they're out of runway to go any further. If you think about it, it's had a lot more plot in 4 seasons than most of Shur's prior sitcoms had over their longer runs, and extending it with more "memory reboots" would have felt really cheap. I think it will be interesting to see how much impact the super serialized style has on sitcoms going forward. As much as I loved this show I still like the less demanding balance of something like Parks & Rec still feels more comfortable.
 
zombie.modernist said:
I agree, it's run its course, not in a bad way, but I think they're out of runway to go any further. If you think about it, it's had a lot more plot in 4 seasons than most of Shur's prior sitcoms had over their longer runs, and extending it with more "memory reboots" would have felt really cheap. I think it will be interesting to see how much impact the super serialized style has on sitcoms going forward. As much as I loved this show I still like the less demanding balance of something like Parks & Rec still feels more comfortable.
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I kinda feel like this show would have been best suited for streaming/bingeing platform with a Netflix style season dump. It was certainly one of the more creative Network TV comedies to come out in the past few years for sure.
 
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TenderLovingKiller® said:
I kinda feel like this show would be been best suited for streaming/bingeing platform with a Netflix style season dump. It was certainly one of the more creative Network TV comedies to come out in the past few years for sure.
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Yeah I'm surprised the viewership stuck with it on network! Then again I have to wonder how many people watched this show live vs TV anywhere apps or Hulu. I've only ever tuned in via Hulu.
 
zombie.modernist said:
I agree, it's run its course, not in a bad way, but I think they're out of runway to go any further. If you think about it, it's had a lot more plot in 4 seasons than most of Shur's prior sitcoms had over their longer runs, and extending it with more "memory reboots" would have felt really cheap. I think it will be interesting to see how much impact the super serialized style has on sitcoms going forward. As much as I loved this show I still like the less demanding balance of something like Parks & Rec still feels more comfortable.
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Agreed, I think if they tried to continue drawing it out they'd end up with a weaker/watered down plot line. There were a few moments in S3 and S4 where I thought it could be wavering but they brought everything together really well. I think we'll see some more 30 min shows with the shorter seasons going forward, especially for tightly written comedies. I think 13 episode seasons have mostly been for hour long shows (not sure, I'm not up to date on tv) but TGP's success shows that the viewership is there for it as long as the quality is.

Edit: As much as I love Parks & Rec (one of my favourites), I don't think S1 or S7 were that great. 4 or 5 seasons (2-6) would have been even better.
 
Aelias said:
Agreed, I think if they tried to continue drawing it out they'd end up with a weaker/watered down plot line. There were a few moments in S3 and S4 where I thought it could be wavering but they brought everything together really well. I think we'll see some more 30 min shows with the shorter seasons going forward, especially for tightly written comedies. I think 13 episode seasons have mostly been for hour long shows (not sure, I'm not up to date on tv) but TGP's success shows that the viewership is there for it as long as the quality is.

Edit: As much as I love Parks & Rec (one of my favourites), I don't think S1 or S7 were that great. 4 or 5 seasons (2-6) would have been even better.
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I always skip season 1 of PnR. I just don't like it. Mark is the woooorrrrssstttt! I don't mind season 7. It's nice to see it all tied up.
 
Teeeee said:
I always skip season 1 of PnR. I just don't like it. Mark is the woooorrrrssstttt! I don't mind season 7. It's nice to see it all tied up.
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Anytime I try to introduce anyone to P&R or The Office I always give them a precautionary warning about the first season. Let them know it’s fun to watch them figure out the shows pacing and flesh out the characters but definitely not essential and definitely not reflective of the quality once those things are established.
 
I love Parks and Rec so much.

I’ve definitely seen The Office more. Used to re-watch it constantly when it was airing. There’s a huge drop off in quality once Michael leaves.

Parks And Rec I think was pretty amazingly consistent throughout its run. Yeah S1 is pretty weak and not the same as the rest, but S2 forward is my favorite run of a sitcom I think ever. The final season was still funny, but I didn’t love it as much. Haven’t re-watched that one since it aired though. Gonna start doing a full run through soon.

edit: anyway, I am excited to see what The Good Place does in its finale. I think it kind of dropped a bit last season but then picked back up. And I loved the plot/“reveal” of last week’s episode so I wanna know what happens to wrap it up.
 
the bojack season finale is already stressing me out because halfway through i am broken already but im scared about the basic idea


EDIT: yep the show ended perfectly
 
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