The Blue Note Thread

While I'm not an expert by any stretch and my records outstrip my gear :) i do have the full series of MMJ 33rpm and the SRX. I only have a couple of the 45. There is an additional level of clarity as an average across the SRX. Some of 33 come close to equaling it but broadly, I've found the MMJ 33 and the tone poet to be closer in quality.

Is the SRX worth the money? For me, I have to admit it coming down as much to the simple thrill of the record, as to an improvement in the quality. For example, on the Horace Silver, Song for My Father, the sound is stunning... And you can hear a tape flaw at the end of two tracks... (They posted a warning with the record)... and the record, the music, is still insanely gorgeous. Also, barring a lottery win I'm never going to own a perfect original :)

Not sure if that helps. They give me joy and I'm sure there is some confirmation bias in the sound evaluation. They are pretty stunning but probably not 2x the TP sound quality -- just different. The music though? That Kenny Dirham... Ooof. Joy.


Sounds awesome. I’m loving the Tone Poets and have been looking at MM’s but just to expensive to get shipped over to England.

I just ordered a couple of King pressings; Moanin & our man in Paris. Maybe what I should be doing is save up for a shopping trip in the states.
 
For anybody who preordered some Tone Poets from UDiscoverMusic when they had that big sale awhile back, seems like they still won't ship for another 2-3 weeks due to "production delays" AKA they didn't get enough copies and oversold inventory...
I have been checking every couple days the past week hoping they have shipped and now I know why... disappointing but hopefully we get them soon.
 
I have been checking every couple days the past week hoping they have shipped and now I know why... disappointing but hopefully we get them soon.
Me too...I emailed them today and they got back to me right away which was cool at least. The dumb thing is I could have ordered these from Amazon at the same price at some point and would have had them by now. Hopefully they actually arrive or do so before the prices climb on the TP releases elsewhere...

The specific ones I ordered were Baby Face Willette and Andrew Hill's Black Fire FWIW...
 
I own King pressings of Moanin’, Maiden Voyage, Blue Train, The Soothesayer and maybe one other album.

They all sound amazing.

I'm listening to a King pressing of Night Dreamer, sounds great! I can definitely hear a difference between most of these pressings, like the BN/MM/TP stuff sounds very very similar, very clean and clinical, vs the few originals which definitely have a particular sound. None of it is bad at all, I think it more boils down to personal preference.

I have a MM copy of Blakey's Indestructible and I love it, but the horns on the first track can be a little harsh. I really want to get the BN80 that's coming out and an OG copy and compare all three.
 
Caught up on the Tone Poet Hoffman thread and saw Joe confirmed Hutcherson's Oblique is coming next year.

Also Tina Brooks' The Waiting Game

Details on how Hutcherson's The Kicker will be released (single LP, omitting the bonus track on the previous release)

Lee Morgan's The Cooker had been hinted at previously in the thread. Thinking this all but confirms it. Only thing is, there was a Classic Records pressing from 2006. Have Tone Poet been avoiding reissuing records that have had quality versions that recently?

Paul Chamber's Bass On Top a possible Tone Poet candidate in 2020 or 2021? It hasn't had a US release since the 70s.

That's all the future Tone Poet news I dug up. As a bonus, here's Andrew Hill's album Shades, which Joe recommends as a must have.
 
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Caught up on the Tone Poet Hoffman thread and saw Joe confirmed Hutcherson's Oblique is coming next year.

Also Tina Brooks' The Waiting Game

Details on how Hutcherson's The Kicker will be released (single LP, omitting the bonus track on the previous release)

Lee Morgan's The Cooker had been hinted at previously in the thread. Thinking this all but confirms it. Only thing is, there was a Classic Records pressing from 2006. Have Tone Poet been avoiding reissuing records that have had quality versions that recently?

Paul Chamber's Bass On Top a possible Tone Poet candidate in 2020 or 2021? It hasn't had a US release since the 70s.

That's all the future Tone Poet news I dug up. As a bonus, here's Andrew Hill's album Shades, which Joe recommends as a must have.

I have been after the cooker for a while. I actually had an ebay bid on an OG copy that was winning until 5mins before when the (already ludicrous price) tippled!! A Tone Poet treatment would be great!
 
Caught up on the Tone Poet Hoffman thread and saw Joe confirmed Hutcherson's Oblique is coming next year.

Also Tina Brooks' The Waiting Game

Details on how Hutcherson's The Kicker will be released (single LP, omitting the bonus track on the previous release)

Lee Morgan's The Cooker had been hinted at previously in the thread. Thinking this all but confirms it. Only thing is, there was a Classic Records pressing from 2006. Have Tone Poet been avoiding reissuing records that have had quality versions that recently?

Paul Chamber's Bass On Top a possible Tone Poet candidate in 2020 or 2021? It hasn't had a US release since the 70s.

That's all the future Tone Poet news I dug up. As a bonus, here's Andrew Hill's album Shades, which Joe recommends as a must have.

FANTASTIC! Thanks for doing this. I've added each of these to the "rumors" section of the spreadsheet.

FWIW - here was Harley's comment about the upcoming releases:
Hey guys, I get just as excited about getting new test pressings as you do when the release comes out believe me. I was telling Don the other day that much of my motivation comes from wanting to hear my favorites in the best possible way, just like everyone else. 2020 is going to be better than the 2019 TP series, there's no doubt about it! And I'm getting excited about 2021 as well, grabbing titles for that too. There are SO many worthy titles that are crying out to be presented in the right way.
 
Caught up on the Tone Poet Hoffman thread and saw Joe confirmed Hutcherson's Oblique is coming next year.

Also Tina Brooks' The Waiting Game

Details on how Hutcherson's The Kicker will be released (single LP, omitting the bonus track on the previous release)

Lee Morgan's The Cooker had been hinted at previously in the thread. Thinking this all but confirms it. Only thing is, there was a Classic Records pressing from 2006. Have Tone Poet been avoiding reissuing records that have had quality versions that recently?

Paul Chamber's Bass On Top a possible Tone Poet candidate in 2020 or 2021? It hasn't had a US release since the 70s.

That's all the future Tone Poet news I dug up. As a bonus, here's Andrew Hill's album Shades, which Joe recommends as a must have.

Just to follow up, here are all the (mostly) confirmed Tone Poet releases for 2020:

RUMORED 2019-20 TONE POET REISSUES
Jackie McLean - Demon DanceHoffman
Chet Baker - Chet Baker Sings"
Bobby Hutcherson - The KickerHoffman
Bobby Hutcherson - ObliqueHoffman
Tina Brooks - The Waiting GameHoffman
Lee Morgan - The CookerHoffman
Paul Chambers - Bass On Top (not confirmed)Hoffman
Joe Henderson - State of the Tenor: Live at the Village Vanguard, Vol. 1Hoffman
Ellington/Mingus/Roach - Money Jungle"
Gerald Wilson - You Better Believe It!"
Ornette Coleman - Love Call"
Andrew Hill (more - but not confirmed)"
 
Is the shipping minimum for MMJ always been 199.95 or is that recent? I used to swear it used to be $99.95.

I really like their product and would love to purchase more from them but their pricing strategies really turn me off. Especially for a company called "Music Matters". Really wish BN would reissue some more of these in their BN80 line (I know they said they won't repeat any MM realeases on Tone Poet).
 
Is the shipping minimum for MMJ always been 199.95 or is that recent? I used to swear it used to be $99.95.

I really like their product and purchase more from them but their pricing strategies really turn me off. Especially for a company called "Music Matters".
It's been that high for as long as I can remember...but I could be wrong. Their pricing strategy is so awful with raising the price when it becomes lower in stock. I refuse to buy from them now and can find most of what I want elsewhere for the same price or cheaper for some of them.

More like "Money Matters" ammirite??
 
It's been that high for as long as I can remember...but I could be wrong. Their pricing strategy is so awful with raising the price when it becomes lower in stock. I refuse to buy from them now and can find most of what I want elsewhere for the same price or cheaper for some of them.

More like "Money Matters" ammirite??

Yeah, It's awful. I had a back and forth about this on Facebook with the guy who manages MMJ recently and he pretty much said the reason they do it is because the releases are worth so much more after theyre sold so its better they make the money than have it go to eBay and Discogs.
Really turned me off of them even more than I already was...
 
Really interesting stuff, thanks for taking the time to write that up. Tends to be pretty tricky to find any MM stuff over here in the UK, but the Tone Poets seem much more accessible (and the price tends to stay the same with them not being limited).

FYI, I know this wasn't really the point you were making but you might be surprised at how much the OG pressings of Horace Silver - Song for My Father goes for, its quite affordable compared with some of the more well known Blue Notes. Theres a VG+/VG+ listed on discogs now for $85.00, and assuming the seller graded it correctly I bet it plays through without issues. Might be a nice treat.

Sorry for the delay on reply -- you raise a great poin. I think I've had a tougher time on Discogs I guess than most. I was late to buying from there and the experiences have been mixed. I was really burned by a John Mayall, Turning Point (a great record if you haven't heard it, FWIW) that was listed as mint and shipped as truly bargain-bin unplayable. I had one copy of Stan Getz's Focus that never shipped. I did get a spectacular copy from a different seller, mint, mono, OG 1st press -- for $40 -- that still feels like I stole something..... but overall I'm gun-shy and I have drifted into the false security of anything remastered by Kevin Gray.... :)

I should try harder probably -- and I still really, really, hope for a copy of All Seeing Eye by MMJ....
 
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