Vinyl Me Please Anthology

NathanRicaud said:
Most of mine have been badly warped, I’ve had to get them professionally flattened 😭

I sent a message to Blue Note and showed them videos and told them I’m not happy and that I’ve had to spend a lot of money flattening the records. Waiting to see how they will respond to me!

23/25 of the Tone Poets have been impeccable though! The Lee Morgan Tone Poet I got was severely warped so I got that flattened and the recent Joe Henderson pressing was faulty as it had pops and my copy skipped too!
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I know this has come up before but it has to be something to do with the distance travelled to consistently get so many warped records. The one thing about the BN80s is the less substantial nature of their packaging (no big fat, chunky, rigid, thick gatefolds) so they're possibly a bit more susceptible to the impact from a postal service not storing in the right condition, leaving in overheated (or underheated) sorting houses, being chucked in vans etc. I'm convinced that part of the reason my VMP pick ups are generally the most knackered is because they're left to the whims of Yodel once the hit the UK. I've had boxes arrive with big chunks out of the side or covered in dust and muck from (I'm assuming) a delivery sorting office floor. You just need to scope out a tracking history to see how many stops a package takes on it's journey and how many hands it passes through before it get in to yours.
 
NathanRicaud said:
Most of mine have been badly warped, I’ve had to get them professionally flattened 😭

I sent a message to Blue Note and showed them videos and told them I’m not happy and that I’ve had to spend a lot of money flattening the records. Waiting to see how they will respond to me!

23/25 of the Tone Poets have been impeccable though! The Lee Morgan Tone Poet I got was severely warped so I got that flattened and the recent Joe Henderson pressing was faulty as it had pops and my copy skipped too!
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Another thing you can get w/ all those savings....a vinyl flat w/ heat pouch
 
Rowan said:
I know this has come up before but it has to be something to do with the distance travelled to consistently get so many warped records. The one thing about the BN80s is the less substantial nature of their packaging (no big fat, chunky, rigid, thick gatefolds) so they're possibly a bit more susceptible to the impact from a postal service not storing in the right condition, leaving in overheated (or underheated) sorting houses, being chucked in vans etc. I'm convinced that part of the reason my VMP pick ups are generally the most knackered is because they're left to the whims of Yodel once the hit the UK. I've had boxes arrive with big chunks out of the side or covered in dust and muck from (I'm assuming) a delivery sorting office floor. You just need to scope out a tracking history to see how many stops a package takes on it's journey and how many hands it passes through before it get in to yours.
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Hmmmmmm maybe, but 24 out of 25 of my Tone Poets were flat, so I think it’s a pressing plant issue. I’ve been getting a lot of stuff from Acoustic Sounds too; a lot of Analogue Productions pressings and a lot of them are 2xLP’s too and I’ve only had 1 of my 30+ records warped. It’s definitely where the Blue Note 80 records get pressed; their QC would be like GZ and other pressing plants that aren’t QRP or RTI.

But at the same time, I have received records where the packaging was good and the jacket looked great but the records were warped. Like my Amy Winehouse Frank Abbey Road vinyl I got yesterday was warped, both discs. I asked for a replacement because I paid nearly AUD$80 for that! But from the same place, all my PJ Harvey reissues, including the demos, have all been flat!

So I think overall it’s still the pressing plant. Urban Outfitters pack my records really well and 35% of the time the records are warped! I just got my Gwen Stefani and it only has a minor warp so I got lucky! But @wynn72 who lives in the U.S. said he got a badly warped copy!
 
Lord Diaper Baby said:
Another thing you can get w/ all those savings....a vinyl flat w/ heat pouch
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I’ve got it! But I don’t really like it because like the Spin Clean, I think I misuse it. Most records I’ve flattened, have a lot of surface noise after I’ve flattened them. But when my local does it, it’s perfectly flat and doesn’t have any surface noise. I’ve ruined some really cherished records just from using that vinyl flat. What I’m going to do is wait until I get a high quality record cleaning machine, clean the warped records well, including vacuuming them, then I’ll put them in the vinyl flat, only for 2 hours maximum with the lowest heat applied!

A lot of the time times using the vinyl flat, my record still remains warped, so I have to put it back in and leave it on for 3 hours! But I’ve got mostly bad results with surface noise/noisy pressings afterwards, probably because I don’t clean my records properly - which is why I’m gonna wait until I get a Record Cleaning Machine before I got back to using itI want to get a professional vinyl flattening machine, but I think they cost a fortune!
 
NathanRicaud said:
Hmmmmmm maybe, but 24 out of 25 of my Tone Poets were flat, so I think it’s a pressing plant issue. I’ve been getting a lot of stuff from Acoustic Sounds too; a lot of Analogue Productions pressings and a lot of them are 2xLP’s too and I’ve only had 1 of my 30+ records warped. It’s definitely where the Blue Note 80 records get pressed; their QC would be like GZ and other pressing plants that aren’t QRP or RTI.

But at the same time, I have received records where the packaging was good and the jacket looked great but the records were warped. Like my Amy Winehouse Frank Abbey Road vinyl I got yesterday was warped, both discs. I asked for a replacement because I paid nearly AUD$80 for that! But from the same place, all my PJ Harvey reissues, including the demos, have all been flat!

So I think overall it’s still the pressing plant. Urban Outfitters pack my records really well and 35% of the time the records are warped! I just got my Gwen Stefani and it only has a minor warp so I got lucky! But @wynn72 who lives in the U.S. said he got a badly warped copy!
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Where as I've 6 BN80s all flat. There is more movement in my copies of Chant and The Cooker than all of them combined. I've 5 of the Abbey Road Stones albums, Dusty In Memphis, Scott 4 and Solid Air - all flat. If you're getting consistently warped records and its a pressing issue then by the law of averages at least one of the 14 albums I've had from those series/ plants should be warped too. But they aren't.

The internet is full of forums talking about warps, off centre presses and surface noise on QRP recordings. It isn't the impeccable haven of perfection full of pixies, elves and Minotaurs shitting out great times and perfectly pressed records that everyone make it out to be. If you've a product that is formed by heat and subsequently further impacted by heat it's going to be susceptible to getting fucked with... irregardless of where it comes from.
 
Rowan said:
Where as I've 6 BN80s all flat. There is more movement in my copies of Chant and The Cooker than all of them combined. I've 5 of the Abbey Road Stones albums, Dusty In Memphis, Scott 4 and Solid Air - all flat. If you're getting consistently warped records and its a pressing issue then by the law of averages at least one of the 14 albums I've had from those series/ plants should be warped too. But they aren't.

The internet is full of forums talking about warps, off centre presses and surface noise on QRP recordings. It isn't the impeccable haven of perfection full of pixies, elves and Minotaurs shitting out great times and perfectly pressed records that everyone make it out to be. If you've a product that is formed by heat and subsequently further impacted by heat it's going to be susceptible to getting fucked with... irregardless of where it comes from.
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True. There is a halo effect happening. I've had warps on RTI and QRP pressings.

Your high fantasy playground has me concerned. Pixies? Definitely. Elves? For the most part. But MINOTAURS? Don't get me wrong, minotaurs are nice to have at a party; but eventually, they'll fuck shit up. Perhaps you meant centaurs, their urbane half man/half livestock bretheren.

Give me a halfsharkalligatorhalfman any day, though.
 
Rowan said:
Where as I've 6 BN80s all flat. There is more movement in my copies of Chant and The Cooker than all of them combined. I've 5 of the Abbey Road Stones albums, Dusty In Memphis, Scott 4 and Solid Air - all flat. If you're getting consistently warped records and its a pressing issue then by the law of averages at least one of the 14 albums I've had from those series/ plants should be warped too. But they aren't.

The internet is full of forums talking about warps, off centre presses and surface noise on QRP recordings. It isn't the impeccable haven of perfection full of pixies, elves and Minotaurs shitting out great times and perfectly pressed records that everyone make it out to be. If you've a product that is formed by heat and subsequently further impacted by heat it's going to be susceptible to getting fucked with... irregardless of where it comes from.
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mmmmm that's so true! I think you're right that it is a heat issue! So frustrating the vinyl gets warped! Imagine if warps never were a thing with vinyl to start off with, it would make the hobby so much more relaxed! I love vinyl but severe warps are so annoying and are so much more common than I ever anticipated them to be!

Yeah, I remember nearly all the records in my Blue Note Anthology Boxset were badly warped and they were pressed at QRP. But all the records in my Stax Boxset were all flat and they were pressed at QRP too! It's all so unpredictable!

I am praying that the discs in my Sade boxset are flat! I do not want to contact Customer Service if I have a problem with my Sade Boxset! They already didn't let me cancel my pre-order from Sade's store even though I found the boxset AUD$70 cheaper in Australia at a retailer near my house! I have a feeling they might want me to send the defected record back to the UK if it's severely warped but I won't let that happen; I'll make sure they send me a replacement as they didn't allow me to cancel my pre-order!

After the Sade boxset and trying to get an Amy Winehouse Frank replacement and Run The Jewels' RTJ4 replacement, I will feel like I'm free because I'll only mainly have Amazon and VMP to deal with - my local is good with flattening any records I received warped from them so that's great too! :)
 
Lord Diaper Baby said:
True. There is a halo effect happening. I've had warps on RTI and QRP pressings.

Your high fantasy playground has me concerned. Pixies? Definitely. Elves? For the most part. But MINOTAURS? Don't get me wrong, minotaurs are nice to have at a party; but eventually, they'll fuck shit up. Perhaps you meant centaurs, their urbane half man/half livestock bretheren.

Give me a halfsharkalligatorhalfman any day, though.
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Im thinking about it now. Is it minotaurs or should it be singular. My Greek mythology is shakey as shit but there were Gorgans (plural) but I can only recall a single minotaur - and that poor dude ended up meeting a fairly poor fate.

But you need something a bit more substantial if you're going to be popping out all those 45s. Otherwise magicland'll just degenerate in to a uber chafed elven anus bloodbath. And that'll just lead to more surface noise
 
Rowan said:
Im thinking about it now. Is it minotaurs or should it be singular. My Greek mythology is shakey as shit but there were Gorgans (plural) but I can only recall a single minotaur - and that poor dude ended up meeting a fairly poor fate.

But you need something a bit more substantial if you're going to be popping out all those 45s. Otherwise magicland'll just degenerate in to a uber chafed elven anus bloodbath. And that'll just lead to more surface noise
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I do believe there was only one Minotaur.

Elven Anus Bloodbath - there's a band name for you. Playing the 2021 Renaissance Fair circuit, dazzling the world with their hurdy gurdy djent chops.
 
Lord Diaper Baby said:
I do believe there was only one Minotaur.

Elven Anus Bloodbath - there's a band name for you. Playing the 2021 Renaissance Fair circuit, dazzling the world with their hurdy gurdy djent chops.
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When you take the kiddies to the toilets at the Renaissance Fair and there's claret spattered across the floors and walls of the cubicle... you know Elven Anal Bloodbath must be topping the bill that night
 
I like that these conversations happen when they do. It's just before noon where I am. What? ~0900 in the UK and night time(?) in Australia. I like that anyone in the U.S. who catches up in the morning will see posts about bleeding elf rectums and office culture and wonder who is minding the store overnight.
 
Lord Diaper Baby said:
I like that these conversations happen when they do. It's just before noon where I am. What? ~0900 in the UK and night time(?) in Australia. I like that anyone in the U.S. who catches up in the morning will see posts about bleeding elf rectums and office culture and wonder who is minding the store overnight.
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6:45pm over here in Australia - In bed on my laptop, listening to Herbie Hancock's Crossings! 😊

Baby Monster is also looking very forward to falling asleep and waking up to see what the VMP store drops are at 2:00am! :cool::devilish:😵
 
Lord Diaper Baby said:
I do believe there was only one Minotaur.

Elven Anus Bloodbath - there's a band name for you. Playing the 2021 Renaissance Fair circuit, dazzling the world with their hurdy gurdy djent chops.
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speaking of colorful band names, I just searched on the discogs app for when the pawn but I only typed “when the” and the second result that popped up was for a band called “when the semen hits the sand,” and they don’t appear to have any releases on discogs, or even a band photo, so I’m very confused by it all.
 
Rowan said:
Where as I've 6 BN80s all flat. There is more movement in my copies of Chant and The Cooker than all of them combined. I've 5 of the Abbey Road Stones albums, Dusty In Memphis, Scott 4 and Solid Air - all flat. If you're getting consistently warped records and its a pressing issue then by the law of averages at least one of the 14 albums I've had from those series/ plants should be warped too. But they aren't.

The internet is full of forums talking about warps, off centre presses and surface noise on QRP recordings. It isn't the impeccable haven of perfection full of pixies, elves and Minotaurs shitting out great times and perfectly pressed records that everyone make it out to be. If you've a product that is formed by heat and subsequently further impacted by heat it's going to be susceptible to getting fucked with... irregardless of where it comes from.
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My experience as well. I can't say I have had to return more than 3 or 4 out of thousands for a significant warp.
I believe distance and climate are the culprits.
Sitting in a hot mail truck all day will do it, and if there are multiple steps along the way, risk increases.
I bet people in Norway rarely have a problem.
all my BN80 are perfect. Optimal is a great plant.
 
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