Vinyl Me Please Anthology

cul8er said:
Does your label side 2 have the runout with the "A" crossed out and a "B" etched after?
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Mine does and I have the mislabeled sides. I went into this cold and so I had no idea I was listening to the sides in reverse. I can forgive it to an extent. The Facebook group has the same people acting like anyone who's critical of this new mistake is just someone who likes to complain. Of course, most of them do not have this mistake. And yeah, I'll be fine. I'll just remember to start side 2 first. But it's more the principle of spending a lot on a box set to have 3 things wrong already out of 4 records.
 
Just checked my copy and the labels are correct.

But yeah, I am also in the camp that wouldn't have known there was a potential issue had someone not said something.
 
mdmost said:
Mine does and I have the mislabeled sides. I went into this cold and so I had no idea I was listening to the sides in reverse. I can forgive it to an extent. The Facebook group has the same people acting like anyone who's critical of this new mistake is just someone who likes to complain. Of course, most of them do not have this mistake. And yeah, I'll be fine. I'll just remember to start side 2 first. But it's more the principle of spending a lot on a box set to have 3 things wrong already out of 4 records.
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Yeah, I would not have known either. Curious at what point did the the person doing the runout etching realize the error.
 
Teeeee said:
I saw some video or IG post or something of VMP employees packing up these anthology boxes themselves. So, these are being shipped by VMP. Which means they had the product in hand before they started shipping. They could have opened a few for QC purposes. (STOP LAUGHING AT ME!!!)

Also, I would have had no idea that the sides are mislabeled. Jazz is hard, for me at least, to determine song names. So I would've gone happily along my way with my $230 mislabeled albums and never have known.
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I believe that I was the first one here on the forum to notice the mistake and one of the first to notice it on the FB group. I am also kind of a jazz novice (I have maybe 2-3 dozen jazz records out of a collection of 3000+ LPs) and I only caught the flipped labels because I’ve been streaming Schizophrenia for the last week or so and became familiar with the tunes over that time. Otherwise, I would have never noticed.
 
johnpisme said:
I just listened to mine and realized I got a mislabeled copy as well. What's curious to me is that the runouts are mislabeled, too. I had read this thread before putting mine on, so I checked the runout on mine in addition to the label, to see that they matched and make sure I wasn't gonna have to flip it immediately and sure enough, the label is for side A, the runout is A, but it is side B. Very interesting. I am fully prepared to not care much about this issue as I've seen even well-established and renowned audiophile labels make mistakes of this kind, but I'm really curious about the whether it is usually the case that the runout is also mislabeled and how that would happen.

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Let's shift the blame to Kevin Gray then!
Edit: /s
 
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edit: okay sorry I took out my initial childish reaction.

I can't believe @Enoch and others are defending VMP so hard right now. Here's the thing, if this were the only issue, I think we could pass it off. I said that about the Horace problem. I'd say it about the Lou Donaldson back sleeve having High Fidelity instead of Stereo in the top left corner. I'd say it about the Facebook group, the poor experience, the lack of communication, everything, if they were all the only thing happening with this rollout.

But you add it all together and it just shows that VMP is phoning this in and rushing it. We paid over thirty dollars per record for this box. We are NOT getting that kind of product in return, let alone an "experience" to make up the difference.

Shame on VMP for pulling this and ripping us off.
 
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imtnbikewv said:
Is anyone else’s copy of Schizophrenia mislabeled? My side one is actually side two and side two is side one (first song on side one should be Kryptonite. It’s not, it’s Tom Thumb; vise versa on side two)
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Yep! I was recording it last night and walked away and noticed Kryptonite was playing when it should have been Tom Thumb. Personally doesn’t bother me too much but it is quite annoying when you have to remember it’s reversed. I have a few albums with this mistake but still shitty. I can’t wait til we get the Ambrose album and it’s only on one LP instead of two :LOL: Honestly the only redeeming thing here is that these records sound amazing. Apart from that there is nothing good about this whole thing. Pretty damn disappointed in the Anthology experience so far.
 
botherly said:
edit: okay sorry I took out my initial childish reaction.

I can't believe @Enoch and others are defending VMP so hard right now. Here's the thing, if this were the only issue, I think we could pass it off. I said that about the Horace problem. I'd say it about the Lou Donaldson back sleeve having High Fidelity instead of Stereo in the top left corner. I'd say it about the Facebook group, the poor experience, the lack of communication, everything, if they were all the only thing happening with this rollout.

But you add it all together and it just shows that VMP is phoning this in and rushing it. We paid over thirty dollars per record for this box. We are NOT getting that kind of product in return, let alone an "experience" to make up the difference.

Shame on VMP for pulling this and ripping us off.
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I want to know exactly how I am defending VMP, I have only described how the flipped labels occurred and have mentioned where this problem occurs and that even with QC that it is hard to miss, Incorrect labels on Horace, wrong images on Dexter, wrong back cover for Donaldson are all on VMP. So where am I defending VMP?
 
Enoch said:
I want to know exactly how I am defending VMP, I have only described how the flipped labels occurred and have mentioned where this problem occurs and that even with QC that it is hard to miss, Incorrect labels on Horace, wrong images on Dexter, wrong back cover for Donaldson are all on VMP. So where am I defending VMP?
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The tone of your previous posts has been very "well this happens all the time" indicating that it's no big deal. Maybe that's a misreading of your intentions but it comes off like you're trying to defend VMP. It also wasn't only you making that argument.

And you're right, maybe this specfic instance isn't a big deal... but it's one in a long lone if stupid "not-big-deals" (and one big deal). So I think this whole, excusing their small-mistakes thing is total bullshit and lets them off the hook.
 
botherly said:
The tone of your previous posts has been very "well this happens all the time" indicating that it's no big deal. Maybe that's a misreading of your intentions but it comes off like you're trying to defend VMP. It also wasn't only you making that argument.

And you're right, maybe this specfic instance isn't a big deal... but it's one in a long lone if stupid "not-big-deals" (and one big deal). So I think this whole, excusing their small-mistakes thing is total bullshit and lets them off the hook.
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No all of them are big deals outside the label flips as I am not sure how to have prevented it. I 100% agree it sucks and with the other problems it magnifies the issue, but I always strive to be fair and on this particular issue I, again, am not sure what VMP could have done for this one, not paying attention to sleeve and label wording is on them and pretty unexcusable
 
Enoch said:
No all of them are big deals outside the label flips as I am not sure how to have prevented it. I 100% agree it sucks and with the other problems it magnifies the issue, but I always strive to be fair and on this particular issue I, again, am not sure what VMP could have done for this one, not paying attention to sleeve and label wording is on them and pretty unexcusable
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There are absolutely simple QC controls that could've caught this. Spot check every 50 records (or something) for a start. If half the labels are wrong, they would've caught one, which means they would've caught more. Honestly the whole "idk what they could've done" just lets them off the hook. If it was ONE thing that slipped through, fine, okay. But it's not, it's literally every record. They weren't prepared for this. I get you want to be fair, and I appreciate that. I just don't think they deserve it at this point.

Anyway, someone on Facebook posted this comment and I'm pasting it here (I'll delete if not allowed)

Setting aside the label and jacket mistakes for a moment. Assume everything was perfectly produced. We spent $230 for a deluxe box set of six LPs. Similar product from VMP's subscriptions will set you back $29 per LP per month, or less, depending on your subscription level, and that includes nice jackets, new liner notes in a booklet, foil stamping, and any other extras like art prints and cocktail recipes. Let's do the math. $29 x 6 LPs = $174. $230 - $174 = $56.

So, we're paying $56 for the box, the podcast series edited from a single interview, the Facebook forum that costs VMP nothing, two AMAs that have cost nothing but the participants' time, and media mail shipping. I don't know about y'all, but that doesn't seem worth $56 to me. Again, assuming everything delivered is perfect, I'm still struggling to see the value added matching the price paid.

Now, factor in the QC issues, and it's a pretty big let down.
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The math really gets me.
 
botherly said:
There are absolutely simple QC controls that could've caught this. Spot check every 50 records (or something) for a start. If half the labels are wrong, they would've caught one, which means they would've caught more. Honestly the whole "idk what they could've done" just lets them off the hook. If it was ONE thing that slipped through, fine, okay. But it's not, it's literally every record. They weren't prepared for this. I get you want to be fair, and I appreciate that. I just don't think they deserve it at this point.

Anyway, someone on Facebook posted this comment and I'm pasting it here (I'll delete if not allowed)



The math really gets me.
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To be fair, these are printed in much less quantity than any of the VMP tracks and are mastered AAA by Kevin Gray and pressed at RTI. The going rate for something like that for a single LP is $35, based off of Analogue Productions and the most recent Blue Note Tone Poet series. And I know they are doing some AAA pressings for Classics but I can almost guarantee that will not be forever at the sub price point. Plus one of the albums is a double LP so that should get factored in. I personally don’t think $230 or whatever was gouging but the QA/QC so far is completely unacceptable.
 
botherly said:
There are absolutely simple QC controls that could've caught this. Spot check every 50 records (or something) for a start. If half the labels are wrong, they would've caught one, which means they would've caught more. Honestly the whole "idk what they could've done" just lets them off the hook. If it was ONE thing that slipped through, fine, okay. But it's not, it's literally every record. They weren't prepared for this. I get you want to be fair, and I appreciate that. I just don't think they deserve it at this point.
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It is still the plant's responsibility to do that, would you want an opened record sent to you when the others are sealed? VMP needs to keep the plant responsible for the issue that is the only real option here. The other option was for VMP to open each one and we don't actually know the number of affected ones as people with problems are more likely to complain/comment than people without an issue. I am not saying this isn't an issue. As I said this is common enough for discogs to not view this as a unique problem.
 
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