Vinyl Me Please Essentials

Joe Mac said:
Looking at their chartings outside of the US I’m struggling to understand them being considered big, never mind bigger than Gorillaz etc. There is some serious hyperbole at play earlier in this thread!
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I find Cake much more enjoyable than Gorillaz, and their vinyl pressings are as hard to come by as Demon Days was before 2017.

dhodo said:
I just took it to mean it would be a big get as in people want to buy it and the only reissues have been an RSD box set limited to 900 that sold out instantly.

I think chart discussions are stupid, but according to Official Charts they had two songs in the top 25 in the UK (which includes the Distance) which is not that much different from PotUSA.
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Yes, chart discussions are stupid, especially in this case. Most of the stuff that sold millions in the 90s has already been repressed, so a niche pick like Cake would make sense. That said, Storf doesn’t like them either so I don’t think they’re a real contender.

What I will stand by is that I’d be much more interested in a Cake ROTM than any Gorillaz album, but that’s just a matter of preference. They’re a feel-good band and I think many people rediscovered their 90s output years after the fact. “Never There” slaps.

I’m honestly more curious about November now. “Most metal since Sabbath” unfortunately could mean “less metal than Sabbath, more metal than Queen” which is still quite a wide gap in heaviness.
 
Joe Mac said:
Even the Presidents and Eels translated over here and reached the actual charts and the general consciousness. I mean I get people like & love them, that’s a taste thing, I just can’t see how it can be argued that they were big, never mind bigger than a worldwide number 1 album by an act who has had worldwide smashes with every album that got a wide scale release...
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Joe Mac said:
That’s certainly a factor but to make it a big get it has to hit way more than that, rarity alone is not enough and I’d argue it’s relatively minor unless the artist is big enough to create a bit of fuss about this rare album coming out. I think the universal derision of this month’s pick proves that.

Yes to an extent I’d agree with you. But they only had one album that even charted in the U.K., at 53. That’s in the 90s when people bought albums. Outside the US that’s the only time one of their albums charted anywhere. Looking at the critical reception for all of their albums its lukewarm. They’re a scene band, nothing wrong with that I love plenty of acts like that, it really does mean that they can’t be a big get though, never mind the absurd idea that they could be a bigger get than Gorillaz or Fiona...
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Many albums that come through Vmp are artists I've never heard of, so your metric seems off. Cake was huge in California. I lost interest after their first three albums which the first two being the best.
 
bettim84 said:
I find Cake much more enjoyable than Gorillaz, and their vinyl pressings are as hard to come by as Demon Days was before 2017.



Yes, chart discussions are stupid, especially in this case. Most of the stuff that sold millions in the 90s has already been repressed, so a niche pick like Cake would make sense. That said, Storf doesn’t like them either so I don’t think they’re a real contender.

What I will stand by is that I’d be much more interested in a Cake ROTM than any Gorillaz album, but that’s just a matter of preference. They’re a feel-good band and I think many people rediscovered their 90s output years after the fact. “Never There” slaps.

I’m honestly more curious about November now. “Most metal since Sabbath” unfortunately could mean “less metal than Sabbath, more metal than Queen” which is still quite a wide gap in heaviness.
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Yes, this :)
 
forkandspoon said:
Many albums that come through Vmp are artists I've never heard of, so your metric seems off. Cake was huge in California. I lost interest after their first three albums which the first two being the best.
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For fucks sake! Again I’m not saying they won’t or they shouldn’t! I’m laughing at the idea that was put earlier in this thread that it’d be considered bigger than Demon Days, there is no metric or argument that supports that!
 
bettim84 said:
I find Cake much more enjoyable than Gorillaz, and their vinyl pressings are as hard to come by as Demon Days was before 2017.



Yes, chart discussions are stupid, especially in this case. Most of the stuff that sold millions in the 90s has already been repressed, so a niche pick like Cake would make sense. That said, Storf doesn’t like them either so I don’t think they’re a real contender.

What I will stand by is that I’d be much more interested in a Cake ROTM than any Gorillaz album, but that’s just a matter of preference. They’re a feel-good band and I think many people rediscovered their 90s output years after the fact. “Never There” slaps.

I’m honestly more curious about November now. “Most metal since Sabbath” unfortunately could mean “less metal than Sabbath, more metal than Queen” which is still quite a wide gap in heaviness.
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That’s you I am probably the opposite. VMP only have to justify it to themselves that they can sell enough copies to make a profit. Again that wasn’t what I was saying but still I give up with this thread.
 
Jango said:
I'm kind of surprised by all the love for Cake as well. "The Distance" was their big hit, but they were pretty niche beyond that. They're more Eels than Gorillaz, and I think of Eels as more successful. Maybe Superdrag or Presidents of the USA level? Definitely not Gorillaz.
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Cake is definitely more successful than Eels. I feel like they had a lot more radio/commercial success... Plus, one of my favorite Weird Al songs is a Cake style parody and you know you've made it when Weird Al parodies you...

 
Bohnjaggs said:
Cake is definitely more successful than Eels. I feel like they had a lot more radio/commercial success... Plus, one of my favorite Weird Al songs is a Cake style parody and you know you've made it when Weird Al parodies you...

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Definitely not internationally, I don’t remember Cake at all and their performance outside the US and reviews don’t follow that logic.

The Eels were a much bigger deal here, regularly on the radio/music tv and E was regularly in NME and Melody Maker being interviewed.

I also hate Weird Al...
 
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