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looks like malachi agreed with @Mather but in a positive way

The sides are 14-20 minutes long, and due to the album’s extreme dynamics suffer from inner groove distortion (sides A and C are cut especially hot). The distortion adds a certain character to the record, though, and amidst musical peaks the recording retains audiophile-grade depth and detail
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so the issue is because the tracks are long and cut hot.. your cartridge is just not forgiving
 
duke86fan said:
looks like malachi agreed with @Mather but in a positive way


so the issue is because the tracks are long and cut hot.. your cartridge is just not forgiving
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Well that's not wrong but there's more issues at play here rather than just being cut hot. The blasts of static in the right channel or the constant popping isn't caused by being cut hot, that's just a bunged up pressing. If it was just the master then both my copies would sound identical but they're both totally different in what the issues sound like and where they appear on the record.
 
Mather said:
Well that's not wrong but there's more issues at play here rather than just being cut hot. The blasts of static in the right channel or the constant popping isn't caused by being cut hot, that's just a bunged up pressing. If it was just the master then both my copies would sound identical but they're both totally different in what the issues sound like and where they appear on the record.
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Without my being a horrible person, is it okay to point our that Malachi is a 12-15 year old (? too lazy to go check) young adult that happens to guest post on analog planet? (which I think is awesome, lovely, really generous, huge carry forward of the vinyl tradition, certainly quite different than what I was doing at that age, doesn't totally invalidate his perspective...and perhaps means that I can take some of his judgement with a different degree of weight?)

I know, I'm awful, but I've struggled with it a little when I see him getting quoted. I'll go sit in the corner.

Also: I accidentally order the Outkast. If someone is missing it -- and is perhaps in the US -- drop me a line.

Edit:. Somebody asked me for Outkast
 
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HuddieLedbetter said:
Without my being a horrible person, is it okay to point our that Malachi is a 12-15 year old (? too lazy to go check) young adult that happens to guest post on analog planet? (which I think is awesome, lovely, really generous, huge carry forward of the vinyl tradition, certainly quite different than what I was doing at that age, doesn't totally invalidate his perspective...and perhaps means that I can take some of his judgement with a different degree of weight?)

I know, I'm awful, but I've struggled with it a little when I see him getting quoted. I'll go sit in the corner.

Also: I accidentally order the Outkast. If someone is missing it -- and is perhaps in the US -- drop me a line.
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Well I didn't know that but it makes sense because to be honest this part: "the recording retains audiophile-grade depth and detail." is absolutely laughably untrue.
 
Mather said:
Well I didn't know that but it makes sense because to be honest this part: "the recording retains audiophile-grade depth and detail." is absolutely laughably untrue.
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Yeah I just gave my second copy a spin today. It has the A3 issue but not as bad as the first copy. I don’t know if it’s the recording or the mastering but this record really doesn’t sound very good. There is no instrument separation at all. It’s almost like a mono recording, but with none of that whateveritisthatpeoplelikeaboutmono. It has its very good moments but they are few and far between.
 
imagine if fremer discovered i was doing the vinyl nerd shit when i was 14 on the VMP forums and i could work for analog planet (but then again i didn't have a goddamn rega P3 turntable at the time so i would be shamed for having an LP60)
 
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Sure
HuddieLedbetter said:
Without my being a horrible person, is it okay to point our that Malachi is a 12-15 year old (? too lazy to go check) young adult that happens to guest post on analog planet? (which I think is awesome, lovely, really generous, huge carry forward of the vinyl tradition, certainly quite different than what I was doing at that age, doesn't totally invalidate his perspective...and perhaps means that I can take some of his judgement with a different degree of weight?)

I know, I'm awful, but I've struggled with it a little when I see him getting quoted. I'll go sit in the corner.

Also: I accidentally order the Outkast. If someone is missing it -- and is perhaps in the US -- drop me a line.

Edit:. Somebody asked me for Outkast
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Sure. That is very reasonable. Malachi is around 15. I wasnt astute about sonics at his age and sure didn't have the internet to tell me what sounds good and doesn't, but I absorbed a tremendous amount of music at his age and certainly had some unfiltered and uninfluenced sense of something sounding really good or not.
I daresay that a 15 year old can be very astute and has much fresher ears than most of us.
 
RHANDMJ said:
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Sure. That is very reasonable. Malachi is around 15. I wasnt astute about sonics at his age and sure didn't have the internet to tell me what sounds good and doesn't, but I absorbed a tremendous amount of music at his age and certainly had some unfiltered and uninfluenced sense of something sounding really good or not.
I daresay that a 15 year old can be very astute and has much fresher ears than most of us.
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There's no question that I was in full input mode through high school -- and much of the music I loved then is still with me today. From pink floyd through Miles, Lou Reed, Bowie, Brubeck, REM, Rollins, Mudhoney, Helmet, the Dead... all with that special unique intensity of youth. I was better with song titles then too -- I'm not sure when that happened but somewhere along the way song titles started to get filed less permanently -- and where every iteration and set list was important. There's a Dylan line about youth and talking with friends in a basement that always rings true. My sense of some of those artists is richer now (hey how about those hard won life lessons for a little extra context...) but also different in other ways. I'm probably less open or more opinionated, though a huge part of this hobby is still the delight of the new.

(The Who meant a lot to me then and I don't really know why I listen to it less now?)

For Malachi, I don't fully discount his reviews -- though your reply made me thoughtful on if I was being dismissive (and, yeah, little bit) but mostly I might read him with context on where he is at in the journey, as a perspective on the music, and a little less weight on the technical of a pressing/gear. I don't put the measure on his review of a phono pre -- and heck, maybe that isn't fair -- as I would Fremer or use him in the same way for a review on sound quality, but that's different than taste. I don't really look to Fremer for the final word on what I might enjoy listening to either, though I trust his judgement a lot on how a thing might have been recorded/sounds.

Also, I hope I die before I get old.

Oh...
 
Agree totally! When I was a teenager, it was pure joy of discovery all the time. Everything was new.
Older now, I still try to keep that feeling by exposing myself to new stuff all the time. That joy can still happen.
Funny though, as I get older (I'm actually not rocking chair old yet) I find myself much more open than when I was younger - I had biases that were wrong and kept me away from some music.
For example, long ago I was hugely into Impulse and avant garde jazz, and considered Blue Note to be too conservative. Very wrong, and a bit dismissive and haughty, do when I was able to shed preconceptions and subconcious biases the music opened up even more.
So now, even after living my entire adult life chasing that joy of the unexpected in music, I find myself with plenty to still discover from earlier eras, and new recordings that give me back that sense of excitement of the new.
Music to me is a transportation device. It, at its best, sends me to new places in my mind. It isn't a background thing for dinner, and it isn't about seeking the ultimate sonics for the sake of sonics.
Back to VMP for a second - despite the flaws in execution, and the (beyond VMP control) challenges and inconsistency of vinyl production in an era where we are still keeping 50 or 60 year old equipment together with duct tape and krazy-glue, not to mention the unrealistic expectations of those who grew up in the CD age - VMP often bring back that joy of a new discovery that transports me to new places.
 
ByersVinyl said:
Well I just received a payment email for another 3 months that I already cancelled, I also changed my payment details to avoid any “mistakes” yet they have managged to find a card I have paid on in the past when ordering g a few add ons.
Pretty shocking, so at the moment I have OutKast coming to me “locked in” and I have less than zero interest in it. In fact I’d want paying to provide storage space on my shelf for it.

Suffice to say a strongly worded email has been sent.
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So although I got a refund I was about $8 down due to exchange rate fluctuation during this period. So I emailed them as It was their mistake they took the payment.
And they replied saying “nothing we can do”
Well there is you could do the right thing 🙄, but I’m not going to peruse it for $8 - I’m just not gonna fall for a decent release again, they are “ignored“
 
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So half way through side B of Spiritualized. Whoever said this was a revelation was wrong. It’s good, better than the plain, and has some dynamics, likely all that are on the master given 1997, but they aren’t huge. It has a slight edge warp, but is within tolerance and it’s a lil more crackly than I’d prefer but not enough to exchange given its mostly loud. Thankfully I don’t have the @Mather distortion at the end of side A. I’ll reserve full judgment until disc 2 has also been spun!
 
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