Vinyl Me Please Essentials

December_boy said:
Once guesses are made, confirmed or unconfirmed, VMP are 100% aware that they will be discussed elsewhere.

So this comment has exorcised me. Discord elitism is another element of the VMP experience worth skewering every now and then too.
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duke86fan said:
in retrospect i was more irritable because i know the original creator of the spreadsheet that contained these answers didn't want it leaked to the public.. saying that if this information was leaked they delete the whole thing and start it again from scratch.. it seems as of recently they rescinded that statement and have decided to open the spreadsheet with something more welcoming towards new people.. i was more stressed about losing all that work that was done more than anything. so yeah... do what ya want, sorry i pissed you off so badly originally.. i'll take that L
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In fairness to Duke (and the VMP staff on the discord), VMP has not made (AFAIK) any official statement regarding the sharing of hints or anything of the sort. Two of the staff (storf and paul) were asked directly and IIRC their answers were closer to "we don't want to see the work of you (the discord members) taken advantage of and have you guys feel bad or used". I'm paraphrasing, but anyone that really gives a shit can go looking for the discussion.

Specifically, I think it's because the hashing out the possibilities turns into a sort of collaborative game and meandering discussion on the discord over the space of days or weeks. Understandably, the folks who have done a lot of the work on it feel invested in it, and seeing it screenshotted and posted on reddit or here or elsewhere might leave them with a sour taste.
 
I'm more active in the Discord than here now. I like a dose of reality every once in a while but this place can sometimes come off as knee-jerk negative at times. The Discord is more positive but I'll admit it can get a little fan-boy at times. It's a positive-leaning community and often times when issues arise Storf will jump in and explain where he's coming from. For instance, when Madlib was announced the reaction here was very negative while some of that was expressed on the Discord at first, it is was explained on the Discord that VMP had it first before the BN Classic was known. Whatever, it's all better than the shit on Reddit.
 
Lee Newman said:
I mean if you are purely talking about VMP, then yes this place can be negative. There’s probably a reason for that.
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I understand there is some history but if it rubs everyone so wrong, there are other places to spend $/time. The Reddit has become unbearable as it's filled with people who I just keep wondering, "do you just need to find another hobby" since it and VMP seems to make them so miserable. There's enough negativity out there, why look for more to be pissed about.
 
Plumcrazyfx said:
I understand there is some history but if it rubs everyone so wrong, there are other places to spend $/time. The Reddit has become unbearable as it's filled with people who I just keep wondering, "do you just need to find another hobby" since it and VMP seems to make them so miserable. There's enough negativity out there, why look for more to be pissed about.
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I’m just saying this might not be the feel happy place for VMP, there is plenty of positive in these forums.
 
spilledleche said:
I think this place has become pretty objective toward them over the past couple years. I see nothing wrong with calling them out or being skeptical of a lot of the things they do while also still recognizing that when they get things right, they provide a pretty great product.
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One of my favourite things in the VMP talk here IS recognition and even praise when VMP does knock something out of the park! They definitely do great stuff from time to time, but also dona ton of stuff that warrants taking a bit of a piss too!
 
Plumcrazyfx said:
I understand there is some history but if it rubs everyone so wrong, there are other places to spend $/time. The Reddit has become unbearable as it's filled with people who I just keep wondering, "do you just need to find another hobby" since it and VMP seems to make them so miserable. There's enough negativity out there, why look for more to be pissed about.
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I think N&G have evolved beyond a VMP message board so I don’t fault folks that came here primarily to discuss VMP to have found greener pastures. While the N&G VMP boards are fairly active, they are a far cry from what you’ll find in other places.

For most of the regulars on here, N&G is a community for record collectors and music
enthusiasts where VMP is just a small part of the overall conversation. There are days that can go by where VMP isn’t even discussed at all. I think that it’s a more rewarding experience to have a community as the central focus rather than a company.

If all you wanna do is talk about VMP then you’re gonna be happier on Discord and that is completely fine. If you wanna talk about just about anything else with people who are also vinyl collectors/music fanatics then N&G’s is gonna be a more more enjoyable place to visit.
 
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TenderLovingKiller® said:
I think N&G have evolved beyond a VMP message board so I don’t fault folks that came here primarily to discuss VMP to have found greener pastures. While the N&G VMP boards are fairly active, they are a far cry from what you’ll find in other places.

For most of the regulars on here, N&G is a community for record collectors and music
enthusiasts where VMP is just a small part of the overall conversation. There are days that can go by where VMP isn’t even discussed at all. I think that it’s a more rewarding experience to have a community as the central focus rather than a company.

If all you wanna do is talk about VMP then you’re gonna be happier on Discord and that is completely fine. If you wanna talk about just about anything else with people who are also vinyl collectors/music fanatics then N&G’s is gonna be a more more enjoyable place to visit.
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Amen
 
TenderLovingKiller® said:
I think N&G have evolved beyond a VMP message board so I don’t fault folks that came here primarily to discuss VMP to have found greener pastures. While the N&G VMP boards are fairly active, they are a far cry from what you’ll find in other places.

For most of the regulars on here, N&G is a community for record collectors and music
enthusiasts where VMP is just a small part of the overall conversation. There are days that can go by where VMP isn’t even discussed at all. I think that it’s a more rewarding experience to have a community as the central focus rather than a company.

If all you wanna do is talk about VMP then you’re gonna be happier on Discord and that is completely fine. If you wanna talk about just about anything else with people who are also vinyl collectors/music fanatics then N&G’s is gonna be a more more enjoyable place to visit.
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Full disclosure: I’m a mod on the discord.

That being said, I like being here and the discussions that come about VMP and nonVMP releases. There are great perspectives being shared and really helpful people. Plus, I wouldn’t have a pocket full of Bandbux without N&G.

I like the VMP discord because there is a little more dialog due to it being discord and not a message board, there is access and information that is shared, and I do feel like the employees there listen to criticism (I went in pretty hard when they raised prices overnight and without warning).

Overall, I think there’s room for both places and anyone who wants to be a part of either. As a great philosopher of our generation once said…
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Lee Newman said:
I mean if you are purely talking about VMP, then yes this place can be negative. There’s probably a reason for that.
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Lee Newman said:
I’m just saying this might not be the feel happy place for VMP, there is plenty of positive in these forums.
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TenderLovingKiller® said:
I think N&G have evolved beyond a VMP message board so I don’t fault folks that came here primarily to discuss VMP to have found greener pastures. While the N&G VMP boards are fairly active, they are a far cry from what you’ll find in other places.

For most of the regulars on here, N&G is a community for record collectors and music
enthusiasts where VMP is just a small part of the overall conversation. There are days that can go by where VMP isn’t even discussed at all. I think that it’s a more rewarding experience to have a community as the central focus rather than a company.

If all you wanna do is talk about VMP then you’re gonna be happier on Discord and that is completely fine. If you wanna talk about just about anything else with people who are also vinyl collectors/music fanatics then N&G’s is gonna be a more more enjoyable place to visit.
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I love the people on here. That is all.
 
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