It's still my main problem with them and it was the common thing between all their problems so by now I have to assume it is on purpose: they simply refuse to communicate in a transparent and upfront way to their customers. they only communicate issues or changes to their customers after a shitstorm
Yes, I think it's definitely intentional. While I know their internal communication is absolutely tragic, ultimately they still over and over again decide "we'll say something when we have to, and not until then." I think they have no respect for their customers--they long ago decided everyone is going to freak out no matter what they do, but keep buying anyway--so they try to minimize drawing attention from the customers who mostly don't pay any. So they repeatedly make things worse than they have to be, which they take as proof that there's no point communicating with their customers because it all gets blown out of proportion anyway.That's why i think it's intentional. It's a choice they make not to contact the complete costumer base by email in case of issues, delays, price changes etc. When they know of the issue. Instead they let people deal with cs first or someone gives a statement on Twitter, reddit or elsewhere. Transparency is not something they want. And I don't mean it in a way some want it. I do not need information about company internal stuff like what they financial situation I or why they parted ways from someone. But if an exclusive was delayed I usually know about it from a cs reply someone posted here ( weeks before, if at all) an email goes out. Same with their bigger issues. And that's why i don't trust them on any promises.
Yes, I think it's definitely intentional. While I know their internal communication is absolutely tragic, ultimately they still over and over again decide "we'll say something when we have to, and not until then." I think they have no respect for their customers--they long ago decided everyone is going to freak out no matter what they do, but keep buying anyway--so they try to minimize drawing attention from the customers who mostly don't pay any. So they repeatedly make things worse than they have to be, which they take as proof that there's no point communicating with their customers because it all gets blown out of proportion anyway.
Agree.Man I love Spoon, but I've never understood having strong opinions about which of their albums are best. Sure there are better ones and worse ones, but the whole point of Spoon is how solid and consistent they are. The vast majority of songs can easily swap around between albums within changing much.
I think that's generally true for say Girls Can Tell to Ga Ga Ga Ga Ga or maybe Transference (except I think it sticks out as not being as good), but I think if you took a song from the other 4 and dropped them into those it would stick out pretty well. I love two out of 4 of those, so the only ones I can easily rank are top 6 vs bottom 3. Order is very hard for me in the top 6.Man I love Spoon, but I've never understood having strong opinions about which of their albums are best. Sure there are better ones and worse ones, but the whole point of Spoon is how solid and consistent they are. The vast majority of songs can easily swap around between albums within changing much.
If it works that way for them then they just made a very good business move.When you really think about it, it's a genius move on their part. Memberships will go down by probably 30%ish but they will keep the rest at a way higher price which ultimately means they will still make the same amount of money except now they have a lot less members to yell at them about all of their issues. And they still probably won't fix any of the issues at all.
Also, after looking at my old VMP orders since I joined.. a few takeaways...
1) Why did I sell my De La Soul - Buhloone Mind State on Reddit for like 30 bucks a few years ago?
2) It's nice to go back and remember the excitement of the Gorillaz, QOTSA drops.
3) Rostam's "Half Light' is one of my favorite exclusives (/750 yellow)
4) My first VMP was Weezer's Pinkerton
5) Thankful that even though they barely pressed any reggae, they did some awesome exclusives + Madlib's 420
Agree. I mean, I do have favorites, but that's not the same as "best." I think they're all strong or medium-strong albums. They're great.Man I love Spoon, but I've never understood having strong opinions about which of their albums are best. Sure there are better ones and worse ones, but the whole point of Spoon is how solid and consistent they are. The vast majority of songs can easily swap around between albums within changing much.
I agree with this - I would say Gimme Fiction and Ga Ga Ga Ga Ga are 1a and 1b but the last three are pretty much interchangeable for me and all very solid.Agree. I mean, I do have favorites, but that's not the same as "best." I think they're all strong or medium-strong albums. They're great.
I think TWMS is maybe their weakest album.Interesting. I'm a huge Spoon fan. They Want My Soul is in my top 3 albums of the decade but Hot Thoughts is probably my least favorite Spoom album overall.
I think I have Kill The Moonlight at the top. But damn this band is great. I may have to pick up a couple more of theirs soon, been slowly picking them up.Top to bottom, The top 5 could be mixed in a bag and I would not dispute the order in which they were drawn out.
Gimme Fiction
Kill The Moonlight
Girl Can Tell
Ga Ga Ga Ga Ga
Series of Sneaks
Soft Effects
Hot Thoughts
Telephono
They Want My Soul
Transference
I think TWMS is maybe their weakest album.
I agree with this pretty much all around except that it's a top 4 for me, with Sneaks leading the "rest of" group.Top to bottom, The top 5 could be mixed in a bag and I would not dispute the order in which they were drawn out.
Gimme Fiction
Kill The Moonlight
Girl Can Tell
Ga Ga Ga Ga Ga
Series of Sneaks
Soft Effects
Hot Thoughts
Telephono
They Want My Soul
Transference
Kill the Moonlight absolutely rules!Interesting. I'm a huge Spoon fan. They Want My Soul is in my top 3 albums of the decade but Hot Thoughts is probably my least favorite Spoom album overall.
If anything this conversation has brought to light that I should revisit They Want My Soul soon. I can confess I never spent much time with it but it seems to be the biggest discrepancy I am seeing when comparing my list to everyone else’s.Everyone else is doing it so why can't I?
Hot Thoughts
Gimme Fiction
Ga Ga Ga Ga Ga
Kill The Moonlight
They Want My Soul
Girl Can Tell
Series of Sneaks
Soft Effects
Telephono
Transference