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I mean, to be fair... the Aja mafia keeps bringing it up. And I just keep saying the same thing. So really, if all the irrationally angry and not at all chill Aja fans don't want to hear me saying "elevator dentist", then they should probably just stop asking me...

-credits roll over sweet sax solo-

-somewhere, a dentist cries-
If I wasn't high on Novocaine, I would climb out of this comfy dentists chair and toss one of my espadrilles at you. Sweet sweet novacaine. What were we talking about?
 
If I wasn't high on Novocaine, I would climb out of this comfy dentists chair and toss one of my espadrilles at you. Sweet sweet novacaine. What were we talking about?
We were talking about appropriate places to wear espadrilles, like on a yacht whilst listening to some kind of soft rock.... that may or may not include an abundance of sax. The yachts name is a 3 letter palindrome starting with "A".

The yacht is also full of dentists.
 
I mean, to be fair... the Aja mafia keeps bringing it up. And I just keep saying the same thing. So really, if all the irrationally angry and not at all chill Aja fans don't want to hear me saying "elevator dentist", then they should probably just stop asking me...

-credits roll over sweet sax solo-

-somewhere, a dentist cries-
My dentist is warped and makes me watch SportsNet. It's the worst. Especially the night production values. It makes me yearn for a sweet Walter Becker guitar solo.

Seriously, I like other Steely Dan albums more than Aja, but I can't believe you are shit-talking Wayne Shorter's sax playing.
 
My dentist is warped and makes me watch SportsNet. It's the worst. Especially the night production values. It makes me yearn for a sweet Walter Becker guitar solo.

Seriously, I like other Steely Dan albums more than Aja, but I can't believe you are shit-talking Wayne Shorter's sax playing.
There are no less than seven different people credited with playing sax on that album. Also I didn't say the sax was bad, I said there was "an abundance of it".

Also I haven't done a show since November so you must be watching some other hack screwing up the nightly broadcasts.
 
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I mean, to be fair... the Aja mafia keeps bringing it up. And I just keep saying the same thing. So really, if all the irrationally angry and not at all chill Aja fans don't want to hear me saying "elevator dentist", then they should probably just stop asking me...

-credits roll over sweet sax solo-

-somewhere, a dentist cries-
I've got to say that I'm in a similar boat to you.

I don't hate the album but it has never really clicked with me. I bought it after hearing it hailed as one of the 'must have' albums and was kind of a let down when I heard it. I think for me its a case of overhyping than anything though, the same reason why I seem to just think of The Beatles as an OK but overhyped group. On paper it should be an album I really connect with, there are tons of jazz legends in there like Bernard Purdie, Victor Feldman, Wayne Shorter, Bill Perkins etc.
 
I think the Classic Albums series episode for Aja is a great gateway into getting it. To me it’s one of the best arranged albums ever. You can just zone out and listen to say the drum track, or the bass, or how the backing vocals are stacked. I also love the vocals and lyrics. The enjoyment of Steely Dan is how they evolve, a real rocking track like Bodhisattva or Reeling In The Years, how they get smoother with things like Kid Charmalagne and Haitian Divorce, if you think Aja is muzak then Gaucho and The Nightfly take that even further. If you don’t like late Dan you may like the early records. But again, give the Classic albums a view.
 
I think the Classic Albums series episode for Aja is a great gateway into getting it. To me it’s one of the best arranged albums ever. You can just zone out and listen to say the drum track, or the bass, or how the backing vocals are stacked. I also love the vocals and lyrics. The enjoyment of Steely Dan is how they evolve, a real rocking track like Bodhisattva or Reeling In The Years, how they get smoother with things like Kid Charmalagne and Haitian Divorce, if you think Aja is muzak then Gaucho and The Nightfly take that even further. If you don’t like late Dan you may like the early records. But again, give the Classic albums a view.
 
Yup Mars Hotel. It spent a week ping ponging around Chicago Fed Ex warehouses. Can’t even blame it on USPS. I reached out to em. Hopefully I can get a replacement. This is my first order LP order from them. Hopefully they’ll step up.
 
I think the Classic Albums series episode for Aja is a great gateway into getting it. To me it’s one of the best arranged albums ever. You can just zone out and listen to say the drum track, or the bass, or how the backing vocals are stacked. I also love the vocals and lyrics. The enjoyment of Steely Dan is how they evolve, a real rocking track like Bodhisattva or Reeling In The Years, how they get smoother with things like Kid Charmalagne and Haitian Divorce, if you think Aja is muzak then Gaucho and The Nightfly take that even further. If you don’t like late Dan you may like the early records. But again, give the Classic albums a view.
One night, after many bourbons. Perhaps... PERHAPS... I will do this. Cheers
 
I've got to say that I'm in a similar boat to you.

I don't hate the album but it has never really clicked with me. I bought it after hearing it hailed as one of the 'must have' albums and was kind of a let down when I heard it. I think for me its a case of overhyping than anything though, the same reason why I seem to just think of The Beatles as an OK but overhyped group. On paper it should be an album I really connect with, there are tons of jazz legends in there like Bernard Purdie, Victor Feldman, Wayne Shorter, Bill Perkins etc.

I think that half the issue here though isn’t the take but the fact that @Mather isn’t being left alone about not liking it. Does it really hurt the poor fans of it that much that someone else disagrees? It’s not even that hot a take, it’s lukewarm at best, I should know, I love to burn down the house with takes!

As for your Beatles take let’s just say that we agree to disagree, strongly, but that I often feel the same about lots of the supposed jazz greats that you fellas fete.
 
I think the Classic Albums series episode for Aja is a great gateway into getting it. To me it’s one of the best arranged albums ever. You can just zone out and listen to say the drum track, or the bass, or how the backing vocals are stacked. I also love the vocals and lyrics. The enjoyment of Steely Dan is how they evolve, a real rocking track like Bodhisattva or Reeling In The Years, how they get smoother with things like Kid Charmalagne and Haitian Divorce, if you think Aja is muzak then Gaucho and The Nightfly take that even further. If you don’t like late Dan you may like the early records. But again, give the Classic albums a view.

I remember seeing this years back and it was a really interesting watch, even as a non-fan like myself. They went to my college and I always thought they would click for me at some point. Maybe in my 40's?
 
I remember seeing this years back and it was a really interesting watch, even as a non-fan like myself. They went to my college and I always thought they would click for me at some point. Maybe in my 40's?
Man, I never got into the 'Dan until this last year -- just hitting the 40s, I was baking some pandemic bread and I thought "I've never given Steely Dan a fair shake" and told my CIA-approved-music-playing-wiretap to 'play some steely dan' and goddamit if the next hour after that wasn't just fucking amazing. I'm still not huge on Aja but I think Can't Buy a Thrill is pretty great.
 
I think that half the issue here though isn’t the take but the fact that @Mather isn’t being left alone about not liking it. Does it really hurt the poor fans of it that much that someone else disagrees? It’s not even that hot a take, it’s lukewarm at best, I should know, I love to burn down the house with takes!

As for your Beatles take let’s just say that we agree to disagree, strongly, but that I often feel the same about lots of the supposed jazz greats that you fellas fete.
Yeah exactly, at the end of the day everything we discuss here is personal preference and a great thing about that is the discussions that arise.

The Beatles is a prime example. Had my parents and grandparents listened to them when I was growing up I would have definitely formed a connection to them. As it happens it was Queen which became the soundtrack to my early memories. Could have easily of been any number of musicians. As a result, I grew up hearing how the Beatles were the greatest of all time, constantly being award number 1 spots etc, but without me really listening to them or having that personal connection.
 
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