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They’re essentially the same thing, no?

That’d always have been known as acid jazz over here.
They both use “acid” as an adjective. House music and jazz music are pretty different over here. Acid implies a psychedelic nature to the music so in that regard they would be similar. I could also imagine an Acid House DJ spinning some Acid Jazz.
 
"One major legacy of the genre was its influence on the jam band movement, with acid jazz proving a suitable medium for extended improvisation for acts such as Medeski, Martin and Wood[5] and The Greyboy Allstars.[19]"

I think we’re probably all correct all at once lol

Acid jazz consisted of two related movements. The first was based on records by disc jockeys and music producers who added percussion and electronic dance beats to jazz tracks from the 1960s and 1970s.[6] The second movement included groups who were influenced by these recordings and who emphasized a groove.
 
Not to mention sweet Victoria based bands of the early 00s like Velvet and Green Room.

I only knew those ones tangentially. For me, it was Blue Quarter out of Canmore - who I did see at Lucky Bar in '04 and then travelled up to Denman Island with them the next day. It was actually the guys in Blue Quarter than introduced me to Medeski, Martin and Wood.
 
Man, this struggle to appropriately categorize MMW is as painful as VMP slapping a Hip Hop labeling on them via their description because they incorporated a DJ for a few albums. Simply put, it’s mainly groove-oriented, bass and keys driven jazz with a ridiculously good drummer. The further their career progressed, the more experimental they got. Maybe it’s for you, maybe not. If nothing else, A Go Go (the album with a Scofield) should appeal to damn near everyone and is a perfect summer day/bbq listen.
 
Man, this struggle to appropriately categorize MMW is as painful as VMP slapping a Hip Hop labeling on them via their description because they incorporated a DJ for a few albums. Simply put, it’s mainly groove-oriented, bass and keys driven jazz with a ridiculously good drummer. The further their career progressed, the more experimental they got. Maybe it’s for you, maybe not. If nothing else, A Go Go (the album with a Scofield) should appeal to damn near everyone and is a perfect summer day/bbq listen.
You know what MMW adjacent project I wish would get pressed on wax?

Robert Randolph, John Medeski, and The Dickinson brothers absolutely shredding some gospel standards. Never been pressed on wax.
 
Man, this struggle to appropriately categorize MMW is as painful as VMP slapping a Hip Hop labeling on them via their description because they incorporated a DJ for a few albums. Simply put, it’s mainly groove-oriented, bass and keys driven jazz with a ridiculously good drummer. The further their career progressed, the more experimental they got. Maybe it’s for you, maybe not. If nothing else, A Go Go (the album with a Scofield) should appeal to damn near everyone and is a perfect summer day/bbq listen.
This. I agree.

Hey @Mather. Listen to John Scofield's A Go Go on Verve. MMW is his band. You'll dig it.
 
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MMW falls somewhere in the acid jazz realm and is strictly instrumental, and very experimental with lengthy improvisations in a live setting. Steely Dan is essentially a calculated studio band. Honestly, they couldn't be farther apart.

Hang on a sec. isn’t acid jazz essentially club music? A type of house music that was popular in the Hacienda and the like in the late 80s?

Indeed. Their earlier albums especially are really great. I saw them live a couple times and watching them interact musically and feed off each other was pretty amazing. That said, I ain't paying no 50 bucks for those reissues. Sorry VMP.

I think you are getting Acid Jazz mixed up with Acid House


They’re essentially the same thing, no?

That’d always have been known as acid jazz over here.

Not entirely sure about the origins of the genre acid jazz, but I've always associated it with more avant-garde, psychedelic, noisy, sort of groovy jazz. Maybe I'm wrong.

Anyways, MMW is definitely somewhere in the jazz realm just not sure where to place them, I suppose.

They both use “acid” as an adjective. House music and jazz music are pretty different over here. Acid implies a psychedelic nature to the music so in that regard they would be similar. I could also imagine an Acid House DJ spinning some Acid Jazz.

I think it’s just differences in labelling or perceptions across the ocean tbh.

"One major legacy of the genre was its influence on the jam band movement, with acid jazz proving a suitable medium for extended improvisation for acts such as Medeski, Martin and Wood[5] and The Greyboy Allstars.[19]"

When I hear Acid Jazz, I think this:


Where as is always think of people off their heads on e gurning to repetitive dance music lol!

I think we’re probably all correct all at once lol

Acid jazz consisted of two related movements. The first was based on records by disc jockeys and music producers who added percussion and electronic dance beats to jazz tracks from the 1960s and 1970s.[6] The second movement included groups who were influenced by these recordings and who emphasized a groove.

Not to mention sweet Victoria based bands of the early 00s like Velvet and Green Room.

I only knew those ones tangentially. For me, it was Blue Quarter out of Canmore - who I did see at Lucky Bar in '04 and then travelled up to Denman Island with them the next day. It was actually the guys in Blue Quarter than introduced me to Medeski, Martin and Wood.

Man, this struggle to appropriately categorize MMW is as painful as VMP slapping a Hip Hop labeling on them via their description because they incorporated a DJ for a few albums. Simply put, it’s mainly groove-oriented, bass and keys driven jazz with a ridiculously good drummer. The further their career progressed, the more experimental they got. Maybe it’s for you, maybe not. If nothing else, A Go Go (the album with a Scofield) should appeal to damn near everyone and is a perfect summer day/bbq listen.

You know what MMW adjacent project I wish would get pressed on wax?

Robert Randolph, John Medeski, and The Dickinson brothers absolutely shredding some gospel standards. Never been pressed on wax.


This. I agree.

Hey @Mather. Listen to John Scofield's A Go Go on Verve. MMW is his band. You'll dig it.

@Mather - Do you dislike the album ‘Uninvisible’ by Medeski, Martin & Wood!? 👀
 
Nah, they are at least $10 to $15 overpriced (probably more like $20) they might sound fantastic (though given VMP recent history they could be shit too) VMP rarely puts out a product that rivals AP or MoFi but $50 are definitely Audiophile prices. The market is what it is though and as long as people keep paying crazy prices these companies are going to see how far they can push it.

The Jazz dispensary titles were definitely Audiophile quality, ass good as the Tone Poet's. Hopefully these will be as well. But totally agree there have been a lot of titles priced at that level that don't reach those standards. It's a bit of a gamble with these pre-orders.
 
Hang on a sec. isn’t acid jazz essentially club music? A type of house music that was popular in the Hacienda and the like in the late 80s?

It is club music but I don't think Acid Jazz got much play at the Hacienda, maybe, but I think it was more of a southern thing, more aligned with Hip Hop nights and such.

Acid house is anything using a TB303, something like this




Acid jAzz

more like this

 
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