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[dhodo]

Agree. VMP pulls out some magic from time to time, but even when they do it's still not as consistent as Mofi. I've NEVER had to contact Mofi about a warp. I've never had to clean a mofi more than once when it was new. I don't have to replace Mofi sleeves. Even in VMP's finest moments, they are not $40 for a single LP good. Most no one is, but certainly not VMP.

Edit - I will make one exception. I would pay $40 for the VMP's Pinkerton. It's perfectly flat, sounds perfect, looks cool, and that pop up jacket is super unique. That is the one case and when I would have gladly paid $40 for a 1LP from VMP. Again - unique exception. And I don't think I would have purchased at that price without already knowing it strong reviews.

Did you know the Pinkerton was a MoFi press?

 

[displayname]

Did you know the Pinkerton was a MoFi press?

I've heard the general folklore around it, but I've never personally looked into to confirm, which is why I didn't bring that up. But yes, it figures that the only VMP press I would pay that much for would be the one that's secretly a MoFi, haha.

 

[NathanRicaud]

Sometimes @NathanRicaud i think you have more money than sense. Thats Mofi money, VMP will never be that good.

Well I do have a sugar daddy so that helps!

Nah, just joking!!!

Yes, VMP will never be as good as MoFi in terms of general sound quality (some of their AAA Classics ROTM releases have been as good though in my opinion), but maybe it just costs a lot of money to repress The Idler Wheel...? And then on top, you would want to make sure you receive a high quality pressing of it! GZ can do it, but it’s less likely it will sound spectacular and will instead just sound good/great!

US$40 is close to like AUS$55 and that’s how much RSD release of Robyn’s Body Talk is, and i’d Rather The Idler Wheel much more, especially as three tracks I really like from the original release of Body Talk are missing!

Like, I know it’s expensive, but I’d definitely spend US$50 on The Idler Wheel if I knew I was getting a brand new, very high quality pressing on it!

 

[TCell]

New Shopify store opens tomorrow. Thankfully NOT Idler Wheel tomorrow as that would be a terrible album to test with. (But hopefully we get it later in the week?) See below:

 

[AudioAce]

Well I do have a sugar daddy so that helps!

Nah, just joking!!!

Yes, VMP will never be as good as MoFi in terms of general sound quality (some of their AAA Classics ROTM releases have been as good though in my opinion), but maybe it just costs a lot of money to repress The Idler Wheel...? And then on top, you would want to make sure you receive a high quality pressing of it! GZ can do it, but it’s less likely it will sound spectacular and will instead just sound good/great!

US$40 is close to like AUS$55 and that’s how much RSD release of Robyn’s Body Talk is, and i’d Rather The Idler Wheel much more, especially as three tracks I really like from the original release of Body Talk are missing!

Like, I know it’s expensive, but I’d definitely spend US$50 on The Idler Wheel if I knew I was getting a brand new, very high quality pressing on it!

See the thing is I hope it's a great high quality pressing. But I would trust a pressing plant run by @Mather more then GZ. Plus the only reason I know about GZ is because of their lack of quality. I really do hope for the best but I also hope they have a lot of replacement copies to go around.

 

[jaycee]

This dj dude compared all the Pinata pressings.
tl:dr VMP is the best in both presentation and sound

I have the 2015 Newbury pressing and there are no issues with the sound. It's nothing to be super excited about but the noise floor is low and the sound is clean. I don't know what version is the "best" pressing but nothing was remastered for the 2019 versions so they are almost certainly from the same plates as the earlier pressings.

Maybe this person has some expertise other than their "dj" moniker that qualifies them to be a better judge of sound quality than any other random person but I'm guessing not. It's a real shame when random judgements like this are given some authority on the interwebs for no reason because people who are new and/or naive are going to believe stuff like this.

 

[MadLucas]

What is this shopify and how is it different from the store?

I'm still seeing the same thing I always have when I go to the VMP store.

 

[AnthonyI]

I think the majority of vinyl enthusiasts don't mind paying a premium price for a premium product, I know I don't. The problem is in the definition of "premium".............my premium starts with the pressing, from there, everything else is extra.

 

[AnthonyI]

What is this shopify and how is it different from the store?

I'm still seeing the same thing I always have when I go to the VMP store.

I don't think it's active yet, but in answer to your question, its just an online "Backbone" store service........it can be customized and skinned. A lot of people/companies use it.

 

[jaycee]

Fam. All he did was compare the three pressings he owned (the 2015 Newbury one he got was defective) and he revealed the differences he found. You can choose not to believe him, but his stance is incredibly reasonable if you just look at the reviews for each of the pressings that he mentioned and then compare pictures of the packaging.

His sound-quality review of the VMP vs NB pressings wasn't crazy. He basically said that the VMP one had a slightly lower volume, which allowed for higher dynamics (something I can confirm VMP's pressing had.) Nothing huge.
He also said that VMP's vinyl was the heaviest of the bunch, so if you wanna hold him at gunpoint and force him to take pictures of each record on a scale just to confirm that he wasn't lying about fucking vinyl weight (lmfao) then go ahead.

Also, a big part of the review was the packaging, of which he said VMP had the best. This is obviously subjective, but nothing he said in that regard was even remotely suspicious. I mean, he literally started the thread with a picture of the NB press and the VMP press side-by-side.

And you don't need to be an expert to compare sound quality and packaging quality when you have everything in front of you. Implying that he'd need to be "qualified" to review vinyl pressings is tonedeaf of you, considering we're on a forum full of people that likely have reviewed a vinyl pressing at least once and posted it here with the aim of informing people on the pressing's quality. You could argue that comparing pressings requires more expertise than reviewing a single pressing, but it wasn't like he went super in-depth on the differences between NB and VMP's pressings. He listed one small difference in the sound quality.

In fact, he actually posted his anticipations of the VMP press a month ago, and he said that he didn't see any reason why it'd be better than Newbury's in terms of sound. He posted this under a review of the VMP Bandana press, which he actually reviewed really negatively.

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tl;dr ok boomer

Look if you think I'm a boomer and want to throw around insults then fine. I'm not nearly old enough to be a boomer btw. It's a pretty stupid thing to assume.

You threw-up this person's reddit post and presented it as some sort of fact based on him being a DJ, which he may or may not be and regardless doesn't make him an authority of any kind - just another person with opinions.

I suggested that it's potentially problematic to act like that person did some sort-of analysis of the sound quality of any of those pressings. That was all. If you read and comprehended my post I never suggested it was crazy or that I had any knowledge of the best pressing. Only that the Newbury pressing I had sounded good, which differed from the review, and that the same plates were likely used for all of the pressings. What I intimated was that there was likely little to no difference between any of the Pinata pressings.

Be offended if you want.

 

[Delta Don]

Still no shipping even though I re upped last week with free record. Also noticed I was charged more than i should have been. Thinking about just canceling the entire thing.

 

[BjorgenFjorgen]

Even in VMP's finest moments, they are not $40 for a single LP good. Most no one is, but certainly not VMP.

It's a good thing you're not international, then!

 

[Urbs_hott]

I briefly met Freddie Gibbs last week. We were staying at the same hotel. Nice guy. He did not share his opinion on the best pressing of Bandana.

 

[NathanRicaud]

I briefly met Freddie Gibbs last week. We were staying at the same hotel. Nice guy. He did not share his opinion on the best pressing of Bandana.

You were staying at the same hotel as him!

You must be living the fancy life!

So cool that you met him and person as well and had a chat to him! I’m so jealous!!!

 

[jaycee]

I didn't present it as fact, though. My original tl;dr was just a recap of his post. Also I didn't present it as a fact based on him being a DJ, since I never said he was a DJ. I called him a dj dude cause his username started with dj lmao.
I don't blame you for misreading it, cause I wasn't as clear as it could've been, but you're looking at this situation way deeper than you need to. I've since re-edited it to clear up any confusion.

Since we're already deep, I'll say that you seem to have misread his actual review, which I thought was easy to follow. He never said that the NB press was bad at all. Just that the VMP one was slightly better. You saying that there was "likely little to no difference" doesn't really contradict it either, since it seems like the difference he spoke (in terms of sound quality) was pretty "little."

tl;dr: my second tl;dr still stands

I'm not going to keep re-iterating my original post because you keep trying to turn it into something it wasn't.
I really don't understand why you can't or won't comprehend it.

I have no dog in the best pressing of Pinata fight. I frankly don't care if you or anyone else here wants to believe whatever they want to believe about it. VMP's pressing is fine. Newbury's are fine. None of them are really that nice imo.

It just sucks that people keep propping VMP up as a retailer of superior vinyl when most of their pressings don't deserve that label, again my opinion. It's even more disappointing that hip-hop is often treated as a 2nd class product by many people that sell it instead of giving it the premium treatment other genres more regularly receive (not a jab at VMP).

Keep on keeping it real if that's what you think you're doing.

 

[Urbs_hott]

If I didn't have work on the day, I'd def go see him live and get him to sign my Pinata record. Someone on the hiphopvinyl reddit actually managed to get Madlib's signature too by getting some guy to take the record backstage to him.

He did mention that I should go his show that night, and I was I considering it but I had to work early the next morning and in my experience rap shows tend to go super late. If I knew that Madlib was there too(well, performing anyway) I would have gone for sure! The current tour is just being marketed as a solo show, from what I’ve seen.

 

[Urbs_hott]

You were staying at the same hotel as him!

You must be living the fancy life!

So cool that you met him and person as well and had a chat to him! I’m so jealous!!!

Haha well it was a Hilton Garden Inn, which is fine but not particularly fancy. I was pretty shocked to see him there.

I was in Minneapolis for the week for work, which I wasn’t particularly excited about but I met Freddie Gibbs, toured Prince’s compound, Paisley Park and went to Angel Olsen and FKA Twigs concerts. As it turns out, Minneapolis is alright!

 

[NathanRicaud]

Haha well it was a Hilton Garden Inn, which is fine but not particularly fancy. I was pretty shocked to see him there.

I was in Minneapolis for the week for work, which I wasn’t particularly excited about but I met Freddie Gibbs, toured Prince’s compound, Paisley Park and went to Angel Olsen and FKA Twigs concerts. As it turns out, Minneapolis is alright!

Stop it! You’re making me so jealous! But I’m so happy for you!

So jealous about FKA Twigs!!! I remember you said it was the best concert you’ve been to in years!!!

 

[Joe Mac]

See the thing is I hope it's a great high quality pressing. But I would trust a pressing plant run by @Mather more then GZ. Plus the only reason I know about GZ is because of their lack of quality. I really do hope for the best but I also hope they have a lot of replacement copies to go around.

well yes, so long as he sets it up outside the warp zone. Well that is unless that’s a personalised rather than geographic field

 

[Joe Mac]

Look if you think I'm a boomer and want to throw around insults then fine. I'm not nearly old enough to be a boomer btw. It's a pretty stupid thing to assume.

You threw-up this person's reddit post and presented it as some sort of fact based on him being a DJ, which he may or may not be and regardless doesn't make him an authority of any kind - just another person with opinions.

I suggested that it's potentially problematic to act like that person did some sort-of analysis of the sound quality of any of those pressings. That was all. If you read and comprehended my post I never suggested it was crazy or that I had any knowledge of the best pressing. Only that the Newbury pressing I had sounded good, which differed from the review, and that the same plates were likely used for all of the pressings. What I intimated was that there was likely little to no difference between any of the Pinata pressings.

Be offended if you want.

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