I agree. Cancel culture makes no effort to help rehabilitate the ones they are harassing. Or our culture in general, really, and our cynicism toward any type of rehabilitation (drug, crime, etc). We act just like the judicial system in that you've done a bad thing, now you must pay. Eventually, you may come out of this alive, but you'll never be the same.
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Maybe put that in your original post? Not seeing much issue with this but feel free to elaborate your thoughts.
Gonna need context on this one.
If I had to guess, Gwen Stefani has been accused of appropriating asian culture and I think thats what hes referencing towards. Please correct me if I'm wrong @Count_Vader
That and also parading Japanese people around like accessories. Those were the "Harajuku Girls" they were contractually obligated to dress in ridiculous almost childlike "cute outfits" and were also forbidden from speaking English in public.
Basically what I said above to @AudioAce it's a minstrel show. Quite a few Asian celebrities expressed displeasure with it but nothing ever came of it. And it's still kind of like that today. People can get away with being awful and insensitive to Asian people. It's gotten a bit better but nowhere near the levels of other taboos.
The context of it is what I have issue with. I should have elaborated originally (was drunk) but I did make a post explaining why the "Harajuku Girls" are fucked up and problematic.
I completely agree with you, and actually read about it the other morning in the paper. One counter argument that was in there was that it wasn't just Glitter that performed on that song, and that by banning/not using his music his band would no longer receive royalties. A tricky one for sure and not one where I can see both parties getting what they deserve (the band - royalties and Glitter - nothing).
So this seems the most relevant place to drop this. I listened to this older episode of the Switched on Pop podcast last night. It's my favorite podcast - it breaks down pop music. But it really goes deep - chord progressions, lyrical content and how it matches up with the music, influences, comparisons to older music and sometimes even classical music, history, etc. It's a great podcast.
Anyway, the one I listened to is from 2016 and it is about bad people making good music. Kinda like this thread. The artists they discuss are R. Kelly, Phil Specter and Wagner. With mentions of other artists too. I think they really nail what we are all struggling with in this thread. I also found it interesting knowing what we know now in 2019 about R. Kelly to hear their take from 2016. I would love them to do a follow up on this episode.
If you've ever the chance to - or have read - Nietzsche's The Birth of Tragedy uses the work of Wagner extensively in his argument. But, yes, this was early Nietzsche.
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