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NathanRicaud said:
Omg, you’re still one of the people on here who i’d choose to have of one of my roommates if we had like a VMP house!

I feel like we have so many similarities music taste. We both love that Mariah and Lil Kim album and I know you love SOPHIE’s and Rosalia’s album that got released last year because you were spinning them back in the VMP forum!

I want there to be a Needlesandgrooves/VMP house! With 6 bedrooms!
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You'll need three floors. One for the anti-VMP, one for the OK-VMPaslongasitsagoodlookingrecord and one in the middle of these two to meet, drink beers (you'll drink water) and have fun.
 
Also personally I think the era of the music magazine is basically dead.. even as someone who avidly reads pitchfork, sites like them, rolling stone, av club, etc are way too all over the place with having multiple people write and those writers not choosing the score.. personally I feel like they need either a completely unified discussions so it can make a consistent opinion and have a general staff write it. Or decentralise these reviewers and let them talk about music without any forced editor score and allow bias to reign (this is why people like fantano, spectrum pulse, ARTV, etc. Are so much better. I may disagree with their opinions but I use those opinions to think about how we differ and watch the video to know the reasons and see if those reasons are things we don't agree on)
 
duke86fan said:
Also personally I think the era of the music magazine is basically dead.. even as someone who avidly reads pitchfork, sites like them, rolling stone, av club, etc are way too all over the place with having multiple people write and those writers not choosing the score.. personally I feel like they need either a completely unified discussions so it can make a consistent opinion and have a general staff write it. Or decentralise these reviewers and let them talk about music without any forced editor score and allow bias to reign (this is why people like fantano, spectrum pulse, ARTV, etc. Are so much better. I may disagree with their opinions but I use those opinions to think about how we differ and watch the video to know the reasons and see if those reasons are things we don't agree on)
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I think this disconnect and extreme focus on scores is why some sites choose to eschew them completely, like the Quietus or to use video games as an example, Rock, Paper, Shotgun. I think this is nice as it keeps their readers people who actually read, instead of just checking the score and jumping to the comments. It seems to be a big reason why those publications stay relatively underground, which may also be by choice as it is a sort of anti-populist policy.
 
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dhodo said:
I think this disconnect and extreme focus on scores is why some sites choose to eschew them completely, like the Quietus or to use video games as an example, Rock, Paper, Shotgun. I think this is nice as it keeps their readers people who actually read, instead of just checking the score and jumping to the comments. It seems to be a big reason why those publications stay relatively underground, which may also be by choice as it is a sort of anti-populist policy.
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Oh I love reading the Quietus when I can

That and whenever the ringer does a music based article, I don't care about sports but I love their music coverage
 
duke86fan said:
Oh I love reading the Quietus when I can

That and whenever the ringer does a music based article, I don't care about sports but I love their music coverage
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The ringer is wonderful their oral history pieces are great and the fact that they include sports within their coverage of pop culture (or vice versa) really works for me since those are to areas of interest for me. They understand how co-mingle the two in ways many sites do not.

The biggest issue with digital media is the same issue that infected print. Everything is too corporatized. A site becomes successful based off its hard working and diligent staff then the publisher decides to cash in on their success and the once fun, creative, and thoughtful publication becomes just another cog in a gigantic conglomerate. That has little concern for it content as long as it can generate clickbait for advertisers. I don’t fault publishers for selling out either, I understand that is part of the point. I mean with Pitchfork for example If I were Ryan Scheieber and Conde Naste offered me a boatload of cash to sell out so I could go spin obscure dub 7” in a sweet ass Brooklyn apt I would jump on that in a second. I guess my larger point is the problem is obvious but I don’t know how you fix it (maybe more regulation or oversite?) it’s just frustrating that we can’t have nice things.
 
TenderLovingKiller® said:
The ringer is wonderful their oral history pieces are great and the fact that they include sports within their coverage of pop culture (or vice versa) really works for me since those are to areas of interest for me. They understand how co-mingle the two in ways many sites do not.

The biggest issue with digital media is the same issue that infected print. Everything is too corporatized. A site becomes successful based off its hard working and diligent staff then the publisher decides to cash in on their success and the once fun, creative, and thoughtful publication becomes just another cog in a gigantic conglomerate. That has little concern for it content as long as it can generate clickbait for advertisers. I don’t fault publishers for selling out either, I understand that is part of the point. I mean with Pitchfork for example If I were Ryan Scheieber and Conde Naste offered me a boatload of cash to sell out so I could go spin obscure dub 7” in a sweet ass Brooklyn apt I would jump on that in a second. I guess my larger point is the problem is obvious but I don’t know how you fix it (maybe more regulation or oversite?) it’s just frustrating that we can’t have nice things.
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duke86fan said:
capitalism bad
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Clint Howard said:
Do we even need reviewers anymore? It's not like they usually get the release earlier than the fans anymore. And it doesn't cost the general listener anything to check out everything they want ... so .... why do we need music reviewers at all anymore?
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Some people like to read/hear/watch reviews for the value of hearing what someone who's opinion or style they respect or enjoy has to say about something rather than to be told what to listen to. In my experience, the people who treat it this way tend to be a loooooot better about not being upset when they strongly disagree with said person. Either way, they might learn something from a different perspective than what they had when they formed their initial opinion.
 
Clint Howard said:
Do we even need reviewers anymore? It's not like they usually get the release earlier than the fans anymore. And it doesn't cost the general listener anything to check out everything they want ... so .... why do we need music reviewers at all anymore?
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it does cost one thing


time


no one wants to waste their time on something they might not like
 
dhodo said:
Some people like to read/hear/watch reviews for the value of hearing what someone who's opinion or style they respect or enjoy has to say about something rather than to be told what to listen to. In my experience, the people who treat it this way tend to be a loooooot better about not being upset when they strongly disagree with said person. Either way, they might learn something from a different perspective than what they had when they formed their initial opinion.
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I'd argue that music is such a visceral thing that if you need to read up on why you should like it or respect it, you've already ruined the music.
 
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