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Yeah, not sure if people are trying to walk lightly with the Drew Brees thing because some of us are Saints fans.

Nah, let it out! He deserves every bit of roasting he gets. He is clueless. His apology was trash. (We can go through it if there is any interest, or save it as an exercise after we do some of the book). He needs to retire and if he won't, then fired.

I'm done with the ignorance. He. isn't. even. trying. He had 4 years to try to understand. 4 years to speak with any of his black teammates about this.
 
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gouis said:
Nothing good will come to listening to Skip Bayless discuss anything.
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That's pretty dismissive, if you didn't watch this video. You're discouraging people from watching a video about educating themselves on racial issues and justice. If you did watch the video, Skip barely speaks and when he does, he does so in support of Mike and Shannon's efforts. So, to condescendingly dismiss him in this instance, you are essentially undermining his opinion and, in turn, undermining theirs, in this context.

That's like if I put out a statement that said I believed that womens rights were important and someone responded to it with, "That guy's opinions aren't worth listening to anyway." It's a bad look. Especially, for someone that started this thread.




As for @Teeeee mentioning Drew and the Saints... I didn't really consider that, at all, honestly. Drew Brees is only a small component in this clip. I'm mostly interested in Mike's words and position in general, especially how he offers additional insight and resources, as far as discussing these issues. My assumption was that, if you were in this group, you were in favor of being vocal against oppression.
 
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Dead C said:
@Tyr

Since you referenced being mixed race and -- if I understood you correctly -- possibly, code switching(?), I thought about this podcast episode that you might get something out of. It addresses identity as mixed race and something they refer to as racial imposter syndrome. It resonated a lot with me and it also adds another dimension to how we view race, tribalism, and our own identities. It's worth checking out.


www.npr.org

'Racial Impostor Syndrome': Here Are Your Stories

We got more than 100 letters from our listeners about how y'all feel like fakes. Here are some of our favorites.
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Thank you for sharing this @Dead C. Yes, you understood very well. Code switching is what I was referring to, though I didn't know the name of it. And it is SPOT ON. I haven't listened to the podcast yet but I read the article that accompanied it. It was very eye-opening and actually made me a little sad. My heart hurt a bit for tiny kid Týr who just wanted to be accepted by both sides of his family and never was fully embraced by either.

One thing I've mentioned often on the boards, but never really explored in-depth internally until now, is that I've never felt like I had a home. More specifically, home was never a place or a people for me. Growing up in FL, I never felt at home with my white family or with the community I lived in. I always felt like an outsider, even with my own family. When my Dad gained custody when I was 11-12, I moved in with him and left the South. I also never felt at home with the other side of my family, never accepted. Always loved, by both sides, sure. But never a part of the whole. I spent a good majority of my teenage and 20's years trying to find my place. Trying to find a place to fit in and belong.

I think many of those childhood experiences has led to my "Home is Nowhere" attitude of travel and exploration. Am I searching for a home? I don't know. I don't think so, but I cannot be certain. For now, in this period of self-assessment and reflection, home is me. Home isn't a place or a people but my acceptance of who I am and what I'm about. I no longer wish to try and belong to any one people or place. I am human. I belong to that people. I think a lot of that is also what drives my "Spread Love" personality trait of positivity and human kindness. But I don't know. So much I do not know about the world and myself. But that's part of my journey overall, I guess.

The code-switching and racial ambiguity experiences have made me who I am. They were the building blocks of my formative years and have given me perspective. So I guess I am thankful for that. I like who I am and what I am about. But my heart does go out to all the children who are experiencing something similar.
 
Dead C said:
That's pretty dismissive, if you didn't watch this video. You're discouraging people from watching a video about educating themselves on racial issues and justice. If you did watch the video, Skip barely speaks and when he does, he does so in support of Mike and Shannon's efforts. So, to condescendingly dismiss him in this instance, you are essentially undermining his opinion and, in turn, undermining theirs, in this context.

That's like if I put out a statement that said I believed that womens rights were important and someone responded to it with, "That guy's opinions aren't worth listening to anyway." It's a bad look. Especially, for someone that started this thread.




As for @Teeeee mentioning Drew and the Saints... I didn't really consider that, at all, honestly. Drew Brees is only a small component in this clip. I'm mostly interested in Mike's words and position in general, especially how he offers additional insight and resources, as far as discussing these issues. My assumption was that, if you were in this group, you were in favor of being vocal against oppression.
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Take @gouis post how ever ya like. I don’t think he was being dismissive to the clip or Killer Mike or even what Skip is saying in the clip. In the sports world most regard Skip Bayless as an asshole that spews asinine hot takes in exchange for clicks and ratings. Thus I think it was more of joke directed toward Skip than anything more. That being said his brother is a fucking awesome chef and makes phenomenal Mexican Food.
 
TenderLovingKiller® said:
Take @gouis post how ever ya like. I don’t think he was being dismissive to the clip or Killer Mike or even what Skip is saying in the clip. In the sports world most regard Skip Bayless as an asshole that spews asinine hot takes in exchange for clicks and ratings. That being said his brother is a fucking awesome chef and makes phenomenal Mexican Food.
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One of Rick Bayless' books taught me how to cook, and seems to be just an all around wonderful human.

Skip Bayless is an empty husk of a person. Even if he says something I agree with he's not worth listening to.
 
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It was great to give Mike the platform and room to speak so hopefully someone who wouldn't normally do so will hear what he is saying, but the best thing I can say about Skip Bayless is that he isn't Colin Cowherd.

Skip is paired with Shannon Sharpe for a reason, just as he was paired with Stephen A. "the weeeeeeeeeed" Smith for a reason. How the media, and sports in particular, leverages race in America to present false drama in the 24 hour news cycle is part of the problem.
 
GritNGlitter said:
I am LOVING seeing schools cut ties with police departments. Portland Public Schools just announced the end of SROs and regular police presence at schools. And people think protests don't work.
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Yep - Minneapolis SD did the same. Apparently the city councils in the Twin Cities are putting forth disbanding the police departments, whatever that means. That, of course, is bringing people out of the woodwork.
 
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I am LOVING seeing schools cut ties with police departments. Portland Public Schools just announced the end of SROs and regular police presence at schools. And people think protests don't work.
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School Resource Officers are such a relic of the panicked post-Columbine response. 99% of the time they have nothing to do but intimidate the student body.
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Cue the armed teacher advocates rushing to fill that vacuum in 3...2...
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Who else is gonna protect the school children form the bears? Are You gonna do it Mr. Indy!?!!
 
sahomerrocks said:
This is blocks from where I live. People were reporting this group hours ago and were blown off by the police. They just beat up the reporter minutes ago if you follow the thread.

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Hearsay around the neighborhood is that both the police and this group thought a busload of ANTIFA were coming :rolleyes:

Cops falling for this obviously phony shit just shows how plugged in they are to alt-right circles.
 
Does anyone have any good resources that give a good picture of the amount of money police pay out in civil settlements each year? and Does anyone know the flow of money from taxpayer, to insurance, to settlement?
 
TenderLovingKiller® said:
School Resource Officers are such a relic of the panicked post-Columbine response. 99% of the time they have nothing to do but intimidate the student body.

Who else is gonna protect the school children form the bears? Are You gonna do it Mr. Indy!?!!
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I've worked at schools that have SROs. At their best its another adult that kids with problems can have positive interactions with. They are helpful with lock downs, translating the school system and law enforcement interactions. They also become a big deal once the kids reach puberty and sexual harassment and assault become more of a problem. They best ones understand that they aren't supposed to operate like police on the street.
 
sahomerrocks said:
Hearsay around the neighborhood is that both the police and this group thought a busload of ANTIFA were coming :rolleyes:

Cops falling for this obviously phony shit just shows how plugged in they are to alt-right circles.
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I had a conversation with my neighbor about this very thing. He has buddies on the force that were tracking "Antifa" buses. I mean come on people how gullible can you get. There was just a protest of hundreds of HS and college kids. Oh the National Guard stood around watching them.
 
Indymisanthrope said:
You should look up Adam Wren's recent tweets about Carmel, IN (rich suburb of Indianapolis).

The mayor announced he was considering SUING Minneapolis for the extra costs incurred by Carmel due to the unrest created by Minneapolis cops, citing a broken window in a Kohl's department store. There was such severe and immediate backlash that the mayor immediately walked it back, and claimed he had been misunderstood anyway. He proceeded to make lots of boneheaded statements about the state of race relations in Carmel (we all know rich white suburbs are renowned for their diversity and tolerance).

The next day Carmel initiated an indefinite curfew because of "credible threats of violence" being leveled at the town. Dude literally created danger out of thin air. Wren's tweets showing the mean streets of Carmel during curfew are very funny (spoiler: there's not a single person out of doors anywhere whatsoever).
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Just took a look. Seems to me like the bear protester patrol worked like a charm.

 
gouis said:
One of Rick Bayless' books taught me how to cook, and seems to be just an all around wonderful human.

Skip Bayless is an empty husk of a person. Even if he says something I agree with he's not worth listening to.
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TIL Rick Bayless is Skip's brother...also Skip (like Stephen A) plays a character on TV. It's why both of them get paid a lot because they both say scorching hot takes which causes people to talk about them and post about them. That video is worth watching.
 
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