Black Lives Matter

Indymisanthrope said:
First, UGH.

But second, honestly where ARE the gun nuts who have supposedly been waiting for the tyranny of martial law and soldiers in the streets? Where ARE the libertarians who love to do "first amendment audits" and provoke LE into confrontations for YouTube? Where ARE the angry men who thought being asked to wear a mask was unbearable? Where ARE the well regulated militias and the ones who roll into statehouses strapped to exercise their 2A rights in front of elected officials?

Sure would be crazy if any of those people ever showed up in support those who live under actual oppression. Instead they just evaporate or defect to white b**g*l** incitement beatoff fantasies.
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I've always been confused by that stance as well. "We hate government overreach", but you don't hate a militarized police force openly abusing "free citizens"...? WHOSE SIDE ARE YOU ON?

My theory, they are just watching these protests and pretending they are the ones in the riot gear.
 
I don’t know if this was already touched upon but if you’re buying black literature and anti-racism resources try and find them through black owned book stores! Found one here in LA that had EVERYTHING that’s been sold out everywhere and they were so grateful for all the business it made me emotional. Dropping a list of some below.A53A7565-DCA7-4FA5-8098-5494EEA313B7.jpeg40BC9526-9683-4676-8158-2E66EAEB5EAE.jpeg5AA6A94B-5F9B-4D20-B29E-F5BA79D22490.jpeg
 
Indymisanthrope said:
First, UGH.

But second, honestly where ARE the gun nuts who have supposedly been waiting for the tyranny of martial law and soldiers in the streets? Where ARE the libertarians who love to do "first amendment audits" and provoke LE into confrontations for YouTube? Where ARE the angry men who thought being asked to wear a mask was unbearable? Where ARE the well regulated militias and the ones who roll into statehouses strapped to exercise their 2A rights in front of elected officials?

Sure would be crazy if any of those people ever showed up to support those who live under actual oppression. Instead they just evaporate or defect to white b**g*l** incitement beatoff fantasies.
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folsom_lives said:
I've always been confused by that stance as well. "We hate government overreach", but you don't hate a militarized police force openly abusing "free citizens"...? WHOSE SIDE ARE YOU ON?

My theory, they are just watching these protests and pretending they are the ones in the riot gear.
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I think if anything it has just laid bare how hollow, hypocritical, and self centered their true beliefs are. Many of these so called libertarians have Don't Tread On Me flags on their trucks, but what they really think is it's cool if you tread on everyone else as long as you don't affect ME.
 
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I don’t know if this was already touched upon but if you’re buying black literature and anti-racism resources try and find them through black owned book stores! Found one here in LA that had EVERYTHING that’s been sold out everywhere and they were so grateful for all the business it made me emotional. Dropping a list of some below.View attachment 50431View attachment 50432View attachment 50433
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This is GREAT! Thank you. Just bought some books from Black Pearl Bookstore :)
 
 
I enjoy Martin Douglas's (Douglas Martin's) music writing and coverage and I thought this was a good letter he wrote. He quit social media a week or so ago because he couldn't handle all of the people sharing pictures and videos of black people being killed or brutalized without regard for how traumatizing it can be for others, which I think is a good point. I have tried to avoid that, but probably haven't done the best job myself. Something to consider:

An Open Letter to My White Allies

www.kexp.org www.kexp.org
 
MikeH said:
deadline.com

Los Angeles Mayor Eric Garcetti, City Officials Cutting $100 Million-$150 Million From LAPD Budget, Funds To Be Reinvested In Communities Of Color

Billboard Women in Music 2025 As he began to speak about reforming the LAPD during his Wednesday evening press conference, Los Angeles Mayor Eric Garcetti called this an “urgent moment” for the city, “an inflection point.” He said he is “committed to making this moment not just a moment.”...
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Hope more cities follow this lead. It's a small start but it's something hopefully.
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This is why it happened

 
ranbalam said:
I can't even believe it. I work with a guy that is POSITIVE that George Floyd wasn't murdered, that they were all crisis actors and it was all set up to instigate riots to make the country unstable and crash the economy even more, all to take down Trump in November.
He came in this morning talking to anyone that would listen. I kept overhearing "deep state" "it doesn't add up" and "do your research"

I decided not to engage. I can't even argue this morning.

At this point I have to assume he's a flat-earther as well.
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Hey! I know some wingnuts, too!

Here are a couple of exerpts from a FB rant. This cat is on that conspiracy trip, too, but my favorite part is how he always uses the wrong terminology.


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Dtknuckles said:
My city of 212 thousand people is going through something strange. We have the National Guard in town. We are split roughly 50/50 between the two parties.

Rumors started that there was going to be a 800 person protest today in the center of the city. The right thinks it’s antifa and the left things it’s white nationalists. I guarantee you that we have more white nationalists in our area then antifa. The right is also hyper sensitive to looting and have made the typical threats.

the city council had an emergency meeting last night announce a possible 4pm curfew. They voted to match it to the 6pm la county curfew. Hopefully nothing to bad goes down today. We already had a school shooting this year.
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Well... it's been fun guys. Keep fighting the good fight. I found out something really upsetting about myself today, and I'm not trying to contaminate the group, so I feel like it's better I exit before that happens. Turns out that I'm... it's actually kind of hard to say... --- I've been working myself up for this, too. I'm just gonna come out and say it... apparently, I... am... "reverse racist." I know!... I was pretty shook by the news. By implying to a straight white woman I know that she might not understand everything about my experience, both as an individual and as a brown man in the United States, it turns out that I was putting her in a box and am reverse racist. Even worse is that, because of that, I'm no different from the cops who murdered George Floyd. Even MORE WORSE than that... 😬 I am pushing allies away.

I'm gonna have to wrap my head around all of this and make a change.


*obviously, I'm joking, but yes... somebody actually tried to accuse me of this today
 
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Dead C said:
Well... it's been fun guys. Keep fighting the good fight. I found out something really upsetting about myself today, and I'm not trying to contaminate the group, so I feel like it's better I exit before that happens. Turns out that I'm... it's actually kind of hard to say... --- I've been working myself up for this, too. I'm just gonna come out and say it... apparently, I... am... "reverse racist." I know!... I was pretty shook by the news. By implying to a straight white woman I know that she might not understand everything about my experience, both as an individual and as a brown man in the United States, it turns out that I was putting her in a box and am reverse racist. Even worse is that, because of that, I'm no different from the cops who murdered George Floyd. Even MORE WORSE than that... 😬 I am pushing allies away.

I'm gonna have to wrap my head around all of this and make a change.
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You bastard! Why did you not clap when Karen had this discussion with you? Apparently she is woke and you still don't want her help?!? You must be a bad person. /s
 
Ethos99 said:
You bastard! Why did you not clap when Karen had this discussion with you? Apparently she is woke and you still don't want her help?!? You must be a bad person. /s
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@Tyr

Since you referenced being mixed race and -- if I understood you correctly -- possibly, code switching(?), I thought about this podcast episode that you might get something out of. It addresses identity as mixed race and something they refer to as racial imposter syndrome. It resonated a lot with me and it also adds another dimension to how we view race, tribalism, and our own identities. It's worth checking out.


www.npr.org

'Racial Impostor Syndrome': Here Are Your Stories

We got more than 100 letters from our listeners about how y'all feel like fakes. Here are some of our favorites.
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Bull Shannon said:
This past week has been hard. Today feels the hardest. I’d consider myself especially leery of slacktivism; I know many people’s efforts start and end with their social media. I live in Portland; I’m very familiar with the idea that some people are more interested in looking virtuous than acting with virtue.

That said, it makes me really sad to see people turn on one another over the instagram blackout. Of all the days since last Monday, this has been the one where I’m most convinced nothing will change. If we focus on the people trying to do something and simply tell them they’re wrong…that just seems like what the cops want right now: infighting.

I’m half black. I pass as white. I don’t get hassled by cops or followed by shopkeepers, though I’ve seen both happen to my own dad, firsthand. I grew up in the white suburbs of Arizona, and had no connection to the black side of my family. People tell me I’m too white in my demeanor to possibly be “of color.” I have a really difficult relationship my with identity, and feel constantly pulled between polarities; some people would tell me I have no right to identify as a person of color, while others would say I’m shirking my responsibilities as a person of color by not speaking up more.
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I wanted to acknowledge this post, I think I missed it while following up on some other topics. As a white chick, I obviously can't speak to living as a mixed race person, but I do have a lot of mixed friends and family members, and I've been fortunate to have many of them share their stories and journeys with me. So I just wanted to let you know that I see you and I'm thinking of you. xo
 
Dead C said:
Well... it's been fun guys. Keep fighting the good fight. I found out something really upsetting about myself today, and I'm not trying to contaminate the group, so I feel like it's better I exit before that happens. Turns out that I'm... it's actually kind of hard to say... --- I've been working myself up for this, too. I'm just gonna come out and say it... apparently, I... am... "reverse racist." I know!... I was pretty shook by the news. By implying to a straight white woman I know that she might not understand everything about my experience, both as an individual and as a brown man in the United States, it turns out that I was putting her in a box and am reverse racist. Even worse is that, because of that, I'm no different from the cops who murdered George Floyd. Even MORE WORSE than that... 😬 I am pushing allies away.

I'm gonna have to wrap my head around all of this and make a change.


*obviously, I'm joking, but yes... somebody actually tried to accuse me of this today
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"Reverse Racism" is such a hilarious concept. Do the people who use it realize what they are admitting? Obviously not.
 
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