TenderLovingKiller®
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LOL! I am a recovering DMBhead; back in my High School days I saw Dave live over a dozen times.
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TenderLovingKiller®
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Oof! That’s the cringiest part.
Viking Dan
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You keep the Lemonheads out of this sir.
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TenderLovingKiller®
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I stand by my assessment. I’ll take 90s frat rock over early 2000s mall punk any day.
Viking Dan
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The idea of Hootie as frat rock has me
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Hootie is to 1994/1995 as Spin Doctors are to 1991.
The mall punk label is pretty fair though.
TenderLovingKiller®
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Well shoot. If they didn’t make the vaunted, definitive Frat Rock Greatest Hits series then I must be completely wrong.The idea of Hootie as frat rock has me
Various - Frat Rock!
View credits, reviews, tracks and shop for the 1987 CD release of "Frat Rock!" on Discogs.
Various - Son Of Frat Rock!
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Hootie is to 1994/1995 as Spin Doctors are to 1991.
I guess all those Bros in the cargo shorts, flip flops, and backwards white baseball caps sipping on bud light while singing along to “I only wanna be with you” had it all wrong. They too must forgot to check the comp.
Portland Sheriff
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It’s funny how many people say things like that. In my world, it’s people who were in their 20s during that period. I was not among them. I know why he was huge, but, in addition to not liking his music, I thought he was a tool.
TenderLovingKiller®
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Yeah, I get it. Nothing about him or his music is “cool” by any stretch but me and and my buddies really enjoyed it. The late 90s once Alt Rock faded to the background and was replaced by Nu Metal and Boy Bands for whatever reason we gravitated to the likes of DMB, Guster, Ben Harper, Rusted Roots, Dispatch, O.A.R., Agents Of The Good Roots, The Pat McGee Band, Jack Johnson, etc…, etc… good time bands that were probably a bit overly sentient but mainly songs you could drunkenly sing along to while passing around a joint. Not overtly Jam bands but jam band adjacent.
Joe Mac
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Yeah I was 16 in 1999 and the musical landscape was sparse over here too after Britpop sorta died a couple of years earlier and we were a couple of years away from the strokes and the likes. Somewhat depressingly I dabbled in the fringes of nu-metal. It was also when I discovered 70s punk and 80s post punk though so not all that I was listening to was shit
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Viking Dan
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Context is everything. No disrespect intended.
"Frat Rock" in my time & neck of the woods was: Green Day, Alice in Chains, The Orb, Nitzer Ebb, Springsteen (always fucking Springsteen), Wallflowers, and the God Damn Red Hot Chili Peppers.
Hootie would have gotten your red cup taken away and you banned from the house. That's what made me laugh - also I had some of these in my collection a way back...so my mind went right there.
dansomeone
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Yeah, name-dropping Black Flag in a cheesy power pop cover of a Don Henley song really misses the mark.
EDIT: Unless they are making fun of Henry Rollins, which kind of makes sense.
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Viking Dan
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Maybe I misunderstood the lyrics from the jump. Maybe it really is all a bunch of cringe worthy bullshit.
But Context is everything - and my Gen-X head always took Don's version, "Deadhead sticker on a Cadillac", as a comment on the obvious hypocrisy of my father's generation (the hippy openly flaunting his capatialistic/mainstream success and knowingly and openly embracing everything he promised himself and world he would never become). Which I also read as doubly ironic because my perception is/was that Don was the living embodiment of the condition he was attempting to deride in the song.
I dig/dug the "Black Flag" twist because I always read it as having a clever way of a lyric carrying a heavy load:
a) updating the lyric as an unsubtle wink and a nod (a meta-acknowledgement if you will) of the novelty/sell out of "punk" (agreed mall punk) covering Don Henley/Eagles, sure to be taken by most as an obvious sell out/Top-40 attention grab;
while
b) serving as a wry nihilist "time is flat circle" comment acknowledging that even their heroes (Henry Rollins) are equally huge hypocrites doing to the (mall) punks exactly what a bunch of damn Hippies did to Henry and crew: promising important change and then not delivering and getting rich while doing it;
so
c) If nothing matters anyway, wink and nod, here's Don Henley's boys of Summer!
But i spend WAY too much time pouring over lyrics and liner notes...and I'm probably wrong.
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dansomeone
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My Gen X take on the original version was the same, including the irony of how Don embodied the same hypocrisy he was criticizing. And I know nothing about the Ataris and just took that lyric at face value as a lame name drop to show their punk creds. But giving them more credit, if they also noted the irony of Don and were a) making fun of themselves as a pop band, no better than Don, and b) making fun of Hank, who was pretty far from hardcore by 2003, and c) just cutting loose with a catchy tune, then yeah, good take!
grendel627
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Man. I never heard that cover and had no interest in hearing it, but your critique was so solid I went back to try to watch it. I didn't last long--stopped after 30 seconds or so. Still, that's quite the take!
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MikeH
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i liked Dave in middle school. Saw him live a handful of times. Went to a concert with my dad and James Brown came out and performed with them for the encore. My dad thought it was so cool
I can't even listen to him anymore really...I do sneak Ants Marching into peoples' playlists though because it's a really funny bit whenever those opening notes come in and are unexpected.
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I like Dave, it’s a nostalgia thing I guess. I’ve seen him twice at Alpine Valley. The first time I was heckled for wearing a Pink Floyd shirt (I was a dumb high schooler at any rate) by a guy running back and forth on top of the porta potty’s. He proceeded to fall off the porta potty’s about 30 seconds lateri liked Dave in middle school. Saw him live a handful of times. Went to a concert with my dad and James Brown came out and performed with them for the encore. My dad thought it was so cool
sweet justice.