tvham
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I get that, I just think I was looking for a chance to say fuck Michael Jackson and I hope this release is a cluster fuck.
Definitive Audiophile pressings
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AnthonyI
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40K is a big number at $100, it's an odd choice in my opinion for lots of reasons, least of which personal opinions on him.
JonnyH
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Whoa. Coming out on LITA. Sounds very cool.
www.nytimes.com
Earl McGrath Was a Character. His Closet Was Filled With Rare Recordings.
When the art and music world figure died in 2016, he left behind a trove of reels from his years scouting for his own label and the one he ran for the Rolling Stones.
JonnyH
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The anniversary roll out for Thriller has made me way uncomfortable.
The 40k one steps is just an insane amount to do for one of the best selling albums of all time that was pressed AAA originally. Not to mention, Mofi announced they were doing a non one step version too. Do they really think they'll move 60-80k copies of Thriller?
Do they know it's not 1985?
That's my gut reaction too. Like we don't have a ton of exposure in terms of print runs to demand but I think we have enough make an educated guess. We know that the number of records with RSD Print Runs of over 10k that sell out and have high demand are very few and are typically recordings by huge artists not otherwise released in the format in an accessible fashion (Billie Eilish Live at TMR, Dee Gees, Swift's The Lakes). Further, these are often standard retail items. When you get into the premium priced products (let's just say $50+) especially those with other releases out there of the same material, the evidence that there is a market for 20 or 40k copies is very limited. You're going to have to convince customers who may own one of the million issues of this record that they need to spend $100 to upgrade their copy which is a big tough sell.
I almost wonder if they needed to promise a huge print run to get the license and are planning on eating some of that cost down the line to get it. I don't think this is going to be an Adele 25 situation where you can get $10 copies of this at Walmart six months after release but I'd be stunned if they get all of those copies into homes at retail.
Edit: Like, I am digging the audiophile pressings and I spend probably too much on records, but I have trouble justifying the upspend on my favorite albums that get an audiophile pressing when the original is even okay, I imagine I'm not alone.
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zdkaiser
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What next, MoFi gonna do some R. Kelly one steps?
Colonel4Bin
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I’m done pre-ordering them. Seems like almost all can be found for retail after the release or on the secondary market now, so I’m playing the “wait and see” game before spending $125 on one album. If it gets really great reviews and I love the album, I’ll bit. But like the Muddy Waters, I saw no reason to upgrade the $35 AAA version I already had.
tvham
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I paid $125 for Kind of Blue and have Somethin' Else on preorder. For me it has to be an all time classic album to put down that kind of money.
AnthonyI
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tvham
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I have the recent reissue of the Nightfly and it sounds pretty good, kind of scared to hear the one step!
jamieanderson1968
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Bet they could get the rights real cheap. Don't give them any ideas
AnthonyI
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I just PIFed my clean OG copy............that should tell you all you need to know
TenderLovingKiller®
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Amen. This was one of the best selling albums of all time so there are plenty of really good condition original presses floating around. It also been reissued a billion times already in every format imaginable. The amount of people that feel like they need to buy a $100+ copy of this has to be negligible. TBH, I almost feel like they are playing the flippers with this. Assuming that 40k will be purchased by a few thousand (kinda dumb) flippers who will likely be stuck with them for a long ass time.
kafunis
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If AS can sell 25k of KOB, I have no doub
t this will sell out quite easily .
t this will sell out quite easily .
TenderLovingKiller®
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I have no idea if my inclination is correct or not but my inclining is thatJazz audiophiles overlap with vinyl collectors more so than Pop audiophiles do. I think it will definitely sell out but I would be interested in how many of those purchasers by multiple copies.
TenderLovingKiller®
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Like in 5 years I could see KOB going for 3 to 4 times as much the MSRP on the secondary market whereas I think Thriller would still be hovering within the MSRP price range. I could be completely wrong but that’s how it feels to me.
kafunis
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You may be right, but MJ has Millions more fans than Miles I would guess. I suppose we will see what happens .
Russ I
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Equally likely that in 5 years they’ll all be impossible to unload.
AnthonyI
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Agreed, he probably still has a huge fan base. But now start whittling it down a bit, MJ fans who are into vinyl, then MJ fans who are into vinyl that are "audiophiles". Like you said, we'll see, it just seems like such a tall order. I don't see it selling out.