Definitive Audiophile pressings

snoops said:
Well this would explain how they are going to do 40k Thrillers. If this is true its pretty disingenuous to put "Original Master Recording" as a header on the covers. Misleading at the very least.

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You know, I'm only 5 minutes into this vid, still watching it, but am I the only one who feels this guy comes across as disingenuous, opportunistic? This came up from Fermer, Mazi and Michael, now he's jumping on the bandwagon as the "expert".

Anyway...........
 
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TenderLovingKiller® said:
I wish labels were more upfront about there sourcing but ultimately I care more out the sound than the sourcing.
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^^^^ This.

If it's mastered well, it doesn't matter if the source was tape, digital or two soup cans with a string in between them.................but it would be nice to know so I can decide if it justifies the price of purchase based on the actual process and source.
 
Beat me to the post. I'm not sure how much I care really, to the points here some digital masters are spectacular and I’m hesitant to think most people can tell a really good digital master vs a really good analog one. If anything I think it’s a good reminder that a lot of this is marketing that isn’t reflective of the end product but our own biases.

With that said, if you’re going to put a big bar on the top that says Original Master Recording and it’s a digital sourcing, that may be a tad disingenuous and if they’re taken to task on that I can’t say I mind. Especially when you’re selling a product between 2 and 6x standard retail pricing for normal pressings
 
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waruv said:
Beat me to the post. I'm not sure how much I care really, to the points here some digital masters are spectacular and I’m hesitant to think most people can tell a really good digital master vs a really good analog one. If anything I think it’s a good reminder that a lot of this is marketing that isn’t reflective of the end product but our own biases.

With that said, if you’re going to put a big bar on the top that says Ofiginal Master Recording and it’s a digital sourcing, that may be a tad disingenuous and if they’re taken to task on that I can’t say I mind. Especially when you’re selling a product between 2 and 6x standard retail pricing for normal pressings
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K, but that's the rub, it says "Original Master Recording"...............nobody has ever specifically detailed what the means. There's a very loose explanation MoFi floated out a while back if I remember correctly.

Silver Labels - Best source available
Original Master Recordings - From the original tapes when possible

So while I still would like them to be more transparent, they've never flat out said anything one way or the other, there's a lot of self imposed assumptions from the consumer.
 
AnthonyI said:
K, but that's the rub, it says "Original Master Recording"...............nobody has ever specifically detailed what the means. There's a very loose explanation MoFi floated out a while back if I remember correctly.

Silver Labels - Best source available
Original Master Recordings - From the original tapes when possible

So while I still would like them to be more transparent, they've never flat out said anything one way or the other, there's a lot of self imposed assumptions from the consumer.
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I’ll say up front I don’t really care, I can’t tell the difference between it all and all my recent MoFi presses have been very good to great. If that American Beauty MoFi popped up on their site right now I’d give them another 70.

I don’t personally think it’s a radical jump for a consumer to take “original master recording” in permanent print on the album cover to mean mastered from the original tapes even if it’s not what MoFi may do. Like, assumptions sure, but at some point if you use terms like that in a hobby the fault of the assumptions fall on the supplier. If I had a company called Boom Boom Masters and then didn’t hire KG MikeH would hunt me down.

It reminds me a bit of jersey cards in sports card collecting. For years those were game worn jerseys and assumed and stated as such. At some point they moved to “player worn” jerseys which was just clothing a player put on and took off. The card companies never lied but relied on assumptions that really cratered the value of a lot of those relics. Or sticker autos : yes the card is still autographed but using a sticker placed on a card vs. signing a card hurts the appeal and value for many collectors.
 
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Mofi inserts a really clear definition of their lacquers. Either this is correct or wrong. I don't see how they can dance around this.

I'm a AAA fan. It's not for everyone (totally understandable) but I want to hear the original recording as much as possible.
I also want the record to sound good so there's a cake and eat it too.

End of day, I can stream good digital files all day every day. I don't need to go through the vinyl gauntlet if it's just a digital copy.
 
I will say Mike @ The In Groove has made a major niche out of pushing and promoting all analog pressings and the lore of them and selling to customers based on this. A chunk of this is definitely him feeling duped I assume by his assumptions and maybe feeling bad about it (eh? Dunno)
 
waruv said:
I will say Mike @ The In Groove has made a major niche out of pushing and promoting all analog pressings and the lore of them and selling to customers based on this. A chunk of this is definitely him feeling duped I assume by his assumptions and maybe feeling bad about it (eh? Dunno)
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And we need people with some leverage/footprint to question the labels. It's kind of healthy IMO.
 
snoops said:
Well this would explain how they are going to do 40k Thrillers. If this is true its pretty disingenuous to put "Original Master Recording" as a header on the covers. Misleading at the very least.

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That is a broken man. You can see his brain trying to process it all. He’s been duped, bamboozled, made a fool of.

In all seriousness, he makes a good point about sourcing. Hell, even most CDs gave you the SPARS code sourcing right on the CD. Something like that would be super helpful.
 
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