Definitive Audiophile pressings

DeadwaxDude said:
What's funny to me is if MOV is the only company with an ounce of transparency 😂
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Kinda, in that they at least say they'll use digital. But they don't always. Problem is that they don't advertise when they do or don't. It's just a standard we use the best source we can get our hands on and original tapes when possible, but if digital is the best we will use that. Like others I don't really care so long as it sounds the best, but I would like to know just for my own nerdiness who cut it and what it was cut from. It adds to the fun of the hobby. And it should be a selling feature because those of us who do care to know those things are more likely to buy multiple versions to see which ones we like more.
 
Well, I've always liked the originals.
Glad that's the majority of my collection.

I can inexpensively purchase the SACD or stream instead of buying their vinyl.
Thanks but no thanks.
DSD Thriller 40k greed just took a big hit to their brand and exposed their credibility.
 
Digital isn't a problem, but all digital transfers & equipment aren't equal, we all know you can get great sounding records from digital transfers. But watching the interview, I think they are being a bit disingenuous to say you can't cut these live well. I'd really be interested I hearing what Bernie & Boom Boom have to say about it.

I wonder if this opens up the half speed mastering debate again. I heard it works when mastering from digital but not from tape. maybe this is what set them down this path.

Nilson Schmillson & the Blood on the tracks One step both sound amazing. I do think the argument is around cost and transparency. The Speakers Corner Lou Reed & Carly Simon records also sound amazing at a fraction of the price. (I do wonder what they did with Blood on the Tracks to make it sound so good).

(I think the Japan Freewheelin could sound better than the Mofi, but my system probably isn't good enough to tell.)
 
wenis said:
I wouldnt say Mike is the wrong guy. He knows his stuff, he's building high end listening booths in his shop right now and has shown off his gear in many shoot out videos in the past. He understands the process well enough for the average consumer to feel comfortable in understanding what the steps in the process entail. Even when he's gone up against Fremer in conversation (who largely considers himself THE expert and could spot a digital source a mile away ;)) he held his own well enough not to get steam rolled by fremer bloviating for an hour.

either way MoFi looks terrible coming off this. is it going to have a knock on effect with like enjoyment of the music? nah. do the very few mofi records I own suddenly sound like mud? nah. but it does clear the record that no one can really hear the difference and that consumers will at least take a second to really consider is a MoFi release or an analog sourced release with no details on its lineage be worth that $45+ price tag in the future. that's great news.
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He was the wrong guy for this issue. The video was fine as a Youtuber interview at MoFi kind of thing, but this was to ask the right questions and get the right answers....and they sidestepped way too much all while patting themselves on the back. And then he wouldn't make them actually answer the question.

I'm not saying Fremer would have been better, but someone who's main purpose is to sell records shouldn't have been the one to do it.

MoFi knows they fucked up. All these reviews out there putting these releases in the "Top All Analog releases of the year" and not saying a word that they aren't. I'm actually shocked that this hadn't been leaked much earlier than now.


All this being said...I do think their releases sound good for the most part.

I have some that aren't all that great.
 
mdmost said:
I'm sure the Hoffman boards are taking this revelation with the calmed, rational, nuanced response their well known for.
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most of them are, but there's definitely a lot of crow eating for the people that always claimed "analog wins in the battle of analog vs digital" supremacy, or the ones that could "definitely hear the difference" or the people who for some reason passionately hate Mike and call him a blow hard.
 
I’m just surprised that MoFi hasn’t been transparent about this from the get go. I would’ve had much more respect for them if they said, “there is a digital step due to the nature of tapes aging and not being perfect. We have made the best possible sounding version.” Or something along those lines. I don’t care if something is AAA so long as it sounds as good as possible. I would wager the vast majority of record buyers who care about sound quality are in the same boat.
 
Questions I still have...

When did you start copying to DSD?
What are all the titles copied to DSD?
Why didn't you let people know you changed the meaning of "Original Master Recording"
Why didn't you print on the release you copied the master to DSD?
Why did you let all these reviews assume these releases were all analog?
 
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