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I never said the quality of their components is as good or that their equipment is as well made as they once was but they look sharp and for nostalgic reasons I could see people going for it. 🤷‍♂️

It’s a real pity that they didn’t revive some of the old leak classic tube amplifier designs with modern electrical designs and components. That’s effectively what they did with the current Quad QII designs that I have one of. They got a leading hifi designer to design a set of tributes to the original Quad II from the 50s.
 
It’s a real pity that they didn’t revive some of the old leak classic tube amplifier designs with modern electrical designs and components. That’s effectively what they did with the current Quad QII designs that I have one of. They got a leading hifi designer to design a set of tributes to the original Quad II from the 50s.
The group that owns Quad is making nice stuff.
 
It’s a real pity that they didn’t revive some of the old leak classic tube amplifier designs with modern electrical designs and components. That’s effectively what they did with the current Quad QII designs that I have one of. They got a leading hifi designer to design a set of tributes to the original Quad II from the 50s.
That would likely cannibalise some sales from Quad. Part of the issue is that you can buy the circuit designs (Stereo 20, Stereo 40 etc) from other suppliers as the intellectual property lapsed so the USP of Leak doing it would be more limited.
 
The group that owns Quad is making nice stuff.

They are. The new all in one Artera has been getting great reviews and their electrostatic speakers are meant to be really good. The people left in Cambridge are pretty sound to deal with too from my recent service experiences!
 
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That would likely cannibalise some sales from Quad. Part of the issue is that you can buy the circuit designs (Stereo 20, Stereo 40 etc) from other suppliers as the intellectual property lapsed so the USP of Leak doing it would be more limited.

Thats fair and having now googled them to buy I didn’t realise how cheap they were going in with these Leak models. Seems like it’s very much their entry level brand with retro styling as a bonus.
 
That would likely cannibalise some sales from Quad. Part of the issue is that you can buy the circuit designs (Stereo 20, Stereo 40 etc) from other suppliers as the intellectual property lapsed so the USP of Leak doing it would be more limited.
I’m guessing Icon Audio?
 
In this industry, I really appreciate good customer service and while Music Direct did it's part in a few days, the warranty submission to Musical Fidelity is a bit annoying. It's been over a month since it reached them for "final decision" and I have yet to be given one.

Its a shame, and honestly, if this were my only phono and or system, I'd be REALLY upset. Don't get me wrong, I know these are challenging times, but to not have any communication from the manufacturer after 5 weeks is pretty bad.........to clarify, it's been 5 weeks since it reached them with MD verifying and able to recreate the problem.
 
You could use an RCA input selector like this. You would just have to remember to switch the phono on or off when you switch to or from it. Or you could use it as an excuse to upgrade to a nice standalone phono 😉


also before I just buy this right out, I see there are cheaper options. Someone is raving about it in the reviews but I don’t want to grab it and learn that I did overpay.
 
also before I just buy this right out, I see there are cheaper options. Someone is raving about it in the reviews but I don’t want to grab it and learn that I did overpay.

Honestly I don’t know. They’re not something I’ve ever hugely researched. I just knew they existed so googled to find an example!
 
Honestly I don’t know. They’re not something I’ve ever hugely researched. I just knew they existed so googled to find an example!

okay! I wasn’t sure if that was a recommendation or just an example. I also didn’t want to go down a rabbit hole on such a simple item, but I don’t want to grab something that is junk
 
Chasing a hum is one of the most nerve wracking things you'll ever do. That's what I spent my time on this weekend, the truth of the matter is that I'm not 100% sure if the hum was there before I added the Jolida phono to the PLX system a few weeks ago, it's not my main system. But with adding the Jolida, a Gold v3 and Grado ME+ Mono carts, we've been listening to the system quite a bit. The good news, with the Gold v3 going over 30 hours and giving the Jolida a little time to warm up, things sound amazing.

The "hum" got noticed when adjusting the gain and load of the Jolida, now, way back when, when I had my U-Turn I had a hum, it turned out to be the outlet it was plugged into, so I was convinced it was probably the same thing. I've been wanting to add a surge protector to the system for a while, but didn't wan to spend too much on one, I also wanted to upgrade the power cables, especially on the Jolida, who's stock IEC is a flat ribbon that looks and feels like it cost $.50 to produce. So with those things in mind we decided to wait for this stuff to arrive and see if it remedied the problem. I ordered a pair of Pangea AC14 power cables for the PLX and Jolida, a "generic" heavier power cable for the NAD and a Panamax MR4000 at just over $200.......again, didn't want to spend quite that much, but we pulled the trigger because the MR4300 on the UD system has been working great.

Long story short, we're dealing with a ground loop and not the electrical signal coming in. I've isolated it to the TT, at max volume with the TT off I get a slight hum, still at max volume, once you turn the TT on, it gets kind of loud. Again, we're talking at max volume here. At my normal listening volume albums are dead quiet in all the right places along with the gaps in between tracks and runouts so it's not the end of the world............I just know me, and just knowing it's there makes me crazy. The hum is audible at 12 o'clock on the volume nob from a few feet, my normal listening level is at about 9ish.

With all that being said, the power cables didn't solve the problem, but they did "curb" the hum a bit so between shielding and conductive materials they were an "upgrade", the higher pitch of the hum came way down and wasn't as annoying. I was also hoping the "conditioning' part of the Panamax MR4000 would help the hum, but it didn't.....this assumption was before the realization of the ground loop.

I even tried eliminating the ground from the TT by using a 3 to 2 prong adapter to see if that would help, no such luck. Between trying other outlets, different cables, surge protectors, changing the ground cable and a bunch of other little things, the best I could achieve was the toned down version of the hum that was there, which I can live with knowing I tried, lol.

So we ended up keeping the power cables for the PLX and Jolida, the power cable for the NAD went back along with the MR4000. The Panamax was replaced with a Tripp Lite surge protector/filter, like the Panamax, the check box I was looking for was the ability for it to shut down all connected devices in case of an overload at a slightly better price with a good warranty from a reputable company.

At the price point of the AC14 cables I would recommend the upgrade at $40 a pop, especially if the stock cable is a ribbon or really thin, the shielding alone makes it worth while in my opinion. The Panamax had nothing wrong with it and I would still highly recommend it, I just didn't want to spend that much on the surge protector for the second system, the Tripp Lite does the job minus the "eye catching" visuals and sits behind my rack instead of in it...........the rack was looking kind of cluttered with the Panamax in there and I was starting to get concerned with too many things sitting on top of the NAD due to it's tendency of getting a little hot and needing room to breath.

So the moral of the story, figure out what kind of hum you have before diving head first into solutions, lol.
 
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So my teac amp for my project turntable doesn’t have a specific place for a grounding wire ..any suggestions as to where to place it ....or should I just leave it unconnected

Are you getting a hum? Even slight? That would be the argument against leaving it unconnected, the tonearm isn’t grounded and is susceptible to hum.

What you can do if your amp is metal is slightly unscrew one of the chassis screws on the back of the teac. Place the ground lug under it and retighen over it. This grounds you to the amplifier chassis.

Edit: Actually isn’t your pro-ject one with a built in phono stage? If so I’m surprised it even has a ground wire! Anyway same still applies!
 
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Chasing a hum is one of the most nerve wracking things you'll ever do. That's what I spent my time on this weekend, the truth of the matter is that I'm not 100% sure if the hum was there before I added the Jolida phono to the PLX system a few weeks ago, it's not my main system. But with adding the Jolida, a Gold v3 and Grado ME+ Mono carts, we've been listening to the system quite a bit. The good news, with the Gold v3 going over 30 hours and giving the Jolida a little time to warm up, things sound amazing.

The "hum" got noticed when adjusting the gain and load of the Jolida, now, way back when, when I had my U-Turn I had a hum, it turned out to be the outlet it was plugged into, so I was convinced it was probably the same thing. I've been wanting to add a surge protector to the system for a while, but didn't wan to spend too much on one, I also wanted to upgrade the power cables, especially on the Jolida, who's stock EIC is a flat ribbon that looks and feels like it cost $.50 to produce. So with those things in mind we decided to wait for this stuff to arrive and see if it remedied the problem. I ordered a pair of Pangea AC14 power cables for the PLX and Jolida, a "generic" heavier power cable for the NAD and a Panamax MR4000 at just over $200.......again, didn't want to spend quite that much, but we pulled the trigger because the MR4300 on the UD system has been working great.

Long story short, we're dealing with a ground loop and not the electrical signal coming in. I've isolated it to the TT, at max volume with the TT off I get a slight hum, still at max volume, once you turn the TT on, it gets kind of loud. Again, we're talking at max volume here. At my normal listening volume albums are dead quiet in all the right places along with the gaps in between tracks and runouts so it's not the end of the world............I just know me, and just knowing it's there makes me crazy. The hum is audible at 12 o'clock on the volume nob from a few feet, my normal listening level is at about 9ish.

With all that being said, the power cables didn't solve the problem, but they did "curb" the hum a bit so between shielding and conductive materials they we're an "upgrade", the higher pitch of the hum came way down and wasn't as annoying. I was also hoping the "conditioning' part of the Panamax MR4000 would help the hum, but it didn't.....this assumption was before the realization of the ground loop.

I even tried eliminating the ground from the TT by using a 3 to 2 prong adapter to see if that would help, no such luck. Between trying other outlets, different cables, surge protectors, changing the ground cable and a bunch of other little things, the best I could achieve was the toned down version of the hum that was there, which I can live with knowing I tried, lol.

So we ended up keeping the power cables for the PLX and Jolida, the power cable for the NAD went back along with the MR4000. The Panamax was replaced with a Tripp Lite surge protector/filter, like the Panamax, the check box I was looking for was the ability for it to shut down all connected devices in case of an overload at a slightly better price with a good warranty from a reputable company.

At the price point of the AC14 cables I would recommend the upgrade at $40 a pop, especially if the stock cable is a ribbon or really thin, the shielding alone makes it worth while in my opinion. The Panamax had nothing wrong with it and I would still highly recommend it, I just didn't want to spend that much on the surge protector for the second system, the Tripp Lite does the job minus the "eye catching" visuals and sits behind my rack instead of in it...........the rack was looking kind of cluttered with the Panamax in there and I was starting to get concerned with too many things sitting on top of the NAD due to it's tendency of getting a little hot and needing room to breath.

So the moral of the story, figure out what kind of hum you have before diving head first into solutions, lol.

I got rid of my very last subsisting bit of hum by replacing my ground wire on the turntable with an iFi ground hog and grounding it directly to electrical earth. It might not be worth it for you if it’s very minor and on a second system, and of course you might not have the same issue even such is the frustrating insanity of hum!
 
Are you getting a hum? Even slight? That would be the argument against leaving it unconnected, the tonearm isn’t grounded and is susceptible to hum .

What you can do if your amp is metal is slightly unscrew one of the chassis screws on the back of the teac. Place the ground lug under it and retighen over it. This grounds you to the amplifier chassis.

Edit: Actually isn’t your pro-ject one with a built in phono stage? If so I’m surprised it even has a ground wire! Anyway same still applies!


Very low hum, once I move away from the turntable it’s unnoticeable...it’s grounded to the turntable end...but I was thinking of doing what you suggested ...so I shall report back ..
 
Very low hum, once I move away from the turntable it’s unnoticeable...it’s grounded to the turntable end...but I was thinking of doing what you suggested ...so I shall report back ..
No worries, so long as it’s touching a metal part of the amplifier case it should work, that’s effectively what a ground lug does anyway.
 
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Are you getting a hum? Even slight? That would be the argument against leaving it unconnected, the tonearm isn’t grounded and is susceptible to hum .

What you can do if your amp is metal is slightly unscrew one of the chassis screws on the back of the teac. Place the ground lug under it and retighen over it. This grounds you to the amplifier chassis.

Edit: Actually isn’t your pro-ject one with a built in phono stage? If so I’m surprised it even has a ground wire! Anyway same still applies!

easy 10 sec job - and voila - hum now gone / thanks @Joe Mac
 
I got rid of my very last subsisting bit of hum by replacing my ground wire on the turntable with an iFi ground hog and grounding it directly to electrical earth. It might not be worth it for you if it’s very minor and on a second system, and of course you might not have the same issue even such is the frustrating insanity of hum!
That's interesting, I'll have to keep it in mind. Of course now that you've tossed out a possible solution it's going to make me crazy, lol.
 
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