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I mean she still wouldn't ever want me to get them, but she extra hates the way most big speakers look. The cabinet look of these she at least said was very nice looking. Baby steps in preparation for if I ever get hit by a bus and can afford something like this 😂
I’m not even gonna bother. I assume if I ever upgrade, that the mid century modern look of the heritage stuff will at least be palatable.
 
Question for the NAD3050 crew (@Lee Newman and @debianlinux) what do your vu meters hangout at during normal listening?

I feel like mine are routinely between 20 and 75 watts. But when I really crank things they still kind of stay the same? Maybe I just watch them too much.

Also for deb, how are you liking the NAD and Wharfedale combo?
Mine bounce around unless I am streaming (or spinning) something heavily compressed, but I have them on input not output because I like to see them do things.
 
Question for the NAD3050 crew (@Lee Newman and @debianlinux) what do your vu meters hangout at during normal listening?

I feel like mine are routinely between 20 and 75 watts. But when I really crank things they still kind of stay the same? Maybe I just watch them too much.

Also for deb, how are you liking the NAD and Wharfedale combo?
Mine are on output and most of the time are barely moving. I can't see well enough to tell you what the output measurement is but it's solidly under 5% of the total deflection potential. That said, yesterday I had the house to myself for a bit and decided to crank it to my personal taste and the VU meters were absolutely bumping up to the 50% mark. It's in a relatively small room and much beyond this would have been immediately harmful to hearing. Regardless, sound was still very much controlled and clear.

I think the Lintons are just now starting to break in because I've started to notice a lot more light details like guitar strums and stuff feeling more separated from the mix of sounds. They were absolutely great out of the box but are starting to really come into their own. I feel like the NAD pairing fits my listening style well in that it's extremely accurate and neutral sounding. It's not clinical or sterile but there's nothing but original intent being fleshed out. I think some people might prefer more personality and some form of EQ would definitely get you there.

The Lintons seem to be very sensitive to placement. Hell, the grilles are labeled right and left because the fins are angled to better direct the sound to ideal position. Fortunately, in this space I can get them however far off any wall I like and they seemed to do best at about 30" off the back wall and 20" inches off the side wall of the corner. I toed them at 60deg and then spaced them 12' apart to create an equilateral triangle point at ideal listening positioned just off the far wall. For most listening being inside the triangle is good enough although the closer you are to either speaker you will detect more presence or speed from that speaker. When I cranked it up the other day though, it was only truly well formed at the ideal position. There were some easily perceived speed difference issues outside that point at high volumes. I think this because there's necessarily a lot of sound reflection in this room as there's only wood and metal in there. If I were going to crank them often with no regard for where I was sitting I'd have to go to a larger room and place the ideal spot more towards center of room and probably add some type of treatment like a rug.

I would note that even when everything is at moderate volume it still sounds really good well outside the room with no direct path from the speakers to an ear. Also, @nolalady gets big points for fully supporting/humoring me while I worked out everything with a speed square, a try square, and a tape measure.
 
Mine are on output and most of the time are barely moving. I can't see well enough to tell you what the output measurement is but it's solidly under 5% of the total deflection potential. That said, yesterday I had the house to myself for a bit and decided to crank it to my personal taste and the VU meters were absolutely bumping up to the 50% mark. It's in a relatively small room and much beyond this would have been immediately harmful to hearing. Regardless, sound was still very much controlled and clear.

I think the Lintons are just now starting to break in because I've started to notice a lot more light details like guitar strums and stuff feeling more separated from the mix of sounds. They were absolutely great out of the box but are starting to really come into their own. I feel like the NAD pairing fits my listening style well in that it's extremely accurate and neutral sounding. It's not clinical or sterile but there's nothing but original intent being fleshed out. I think some people might prefer more personality and some form of EQ would definitely get you there.

The Lintons seem to be very sensitive to placement. Hell, the grilles are labeled right and left because the fins are angled to better direct the sound to ideal position. Fortunately, in this space I can get them however far off any wall I like and they seemed to do best at about 30" off the back wall and 20" inches off the side wall of the corner. I toed them at 60deg and then spaced them 12' apart to create an equilateral triangle point at ideal listening positioned just off the far wall. For most listening being inside the triangle is good enough although the closer you are to either speaker you will detect more presence or speed from that speaker. When I cranked it up the other day though, it was only truly well formed at the ideal position. There were some easily perceived speed difference issues outside that point at high volumes. I think this because there's necessarily a lot of sound reflection in this room as there's only wood and metal in there. If I were going to crank them often with no regard for where I was sitting I'd have to go to a larger room and place the ideal spot more towards center of room and probably add some type of treatment like a rug.

I would note that even when everything is at moderate volume it still sounds really good well outside the room with no direct path from the speakers to an ear. Also, @nolalady gets big points for fully supporting/humoring me while I worked out everything with a speed square, a try square, and a tape measure.
You pretty much nailed my thoughts on the nad completely. Looking forward to having warmer speakers one day.
 
That's the whole point right? :ROFLMAO:
Maybe, especially since the volume knob is completely useless and the led aren’t much better even with the firmware update, I have considered changing to output to know when things are loud. The only reason I haven’t is threefold:
1. Lazy
2. BluOS does a reasonably good job of telling me what the volume actually looks like.
3. I pretty much know where it needs to be for vinyl and know it is different for streaming.
 
Mine are on output and most of the time are barely moving. I can't see well enough to tell you what the output measurement is but it's solidly under 5% of the total deflection potential. That said, yesterday I had the house to myself for a bit and decided to crank it to my personal taste and the VU meters were absolutely bumping up to the 50% mark. It's in a relatively small room and much beyond this would have been immediately harmful to hearing. Regardless, sound was still very much controlled and clear.

I think the Lintons are just now starting to break in because I've started to notice a lot more light details like guitar strums and stuff feeling more separated from the mix of sounds. They were absolutely great out of the box but are starting to really come into their own. I feel like the NAD pairing fits my listening style well in that it's extremely accurate and neutral sounding. It's not clinical or sterile but there's nothing but original intent being fleshed out. I think some people might prefer more personality and some form of EQ would definitely get you there.

The Lintons seem to be very sensitive to placement. Hell, the grilles are labeled right and left because the fins are angled to better direct the sound to ideal position. Fortunately, in this space I can get them however far off any wall I like and they seemed to do best at about 30" off the back wall and 20" inches off the side wall of the corner. I toed them at 60deg and then spaced them 12' apart to create an equilateral triangle point at ideal listening positioned just off the far wall. For most listening being inside the triangle is good enough although the closer you are to either speaker you will detect more presence or speed from that speaker. When I cranked it up the other day though, it was only truly well formed at the ideal position. There were some easily perceived speed difference issues outside that point at high volumes. I think this because there's necessarily a lot of sound reflection in this room as there's only wood and metal in there. If I were going to crank them often with no regard for where I was sitting I'd have to go to a larger room and place the ideal spot more towards center of room and probably add some type of treatment like a rug.

I would note that even when everything is at moderate volume it still sounds really good well outside the room with no direct path from the speakers to an ear. Also, @nolalady gets big points for fully supporting/humoring me while I worked out everything with a speed square, a try square, and a tape measure.

@nolalady is the hero of this tale for not mocking you relentlessly while you did that…

They definitely do improve with time, I found the bass a little fuzzy and and the sound a little wimpy for a couple of months, relatively I still loved them, and then bang, magic. The REL sub then just added that extra 1%.
 
It's the blu-tack that so many people suggested in this thread!

Just be careful when it’s been sat unused for a while, it dries out and goes hard. Ruined plenty of walls taking down posters that had been up for a long time as a kid!

Does a good job while it’s still fresh.
 
So I'm certainly familiar with the concept of burn in but I'm not certain I've ever had a change quite like I'm getting with the Halo JC3+. It's like about 6 days ago someone flipped a switch on it from one day to the next. Prior to picking it up I'd heard that it had a detailed but almost tube like warmth to it which I thought would fit my detail forward system pretty well, so when I originally fired it up I didn't worry TOO much that it was very detailed but pretty thin. I assumed it would open up eventually, and it did a little after several months, but last week after a session I fired it up the following day and it was so full and the bass was so massive I actually had to turn it off and go check my settings because the bass was almost too much... almost. I ain't changing it. Loving it, just awesome awesome sound and warm AF.
 
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