Mather
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Well I have fixed 47K MM, fixed 47K MC and variable 50-550 MC. So I went with variable MC 470. That's really the only option as far as I can see to get 470.
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OMC
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Soundsmith's website should have all the information necessary to get it all set up right. I would think the MM setting would be locked in at 47K with no adjustability.
Jbraswell
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This is why I stuck with an integrated for years that has two simple options. MM or MC
OMC
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Well then, relistening should be a treat!
MikeH
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I have a buddy who loves this.I've been wanting to see what a tube sound could be in my system and also curious to see how the integrated Denon phono stands up to a separate unit.
Crutchfield has this one on scratch and dent so I am going to give it a trial to see how it sounds.
Something tells me this leads to hundreds of more dollars in tube fixations.
Anyone have experience with this one?
They even sell little wood side panels, which is kind of a cool feature.
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Jbraswell
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That's great.
I really have not seen anything but positive feedback on it.
Skalap
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That's what I asked him at first. He is not going to put hundreds of euros on it because 1, he doesn't have this money 2, I wouldn't recommend him to spend that money on a system he'll barely use. I'll keep an eye on second hand deals and will take it to him next time I am going to Portugal.
Thank you all for your suggestions.
Angsty
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If you buy a second hand turntable, I’d recommend getting a direct drive (quartz) model from a recognized brand - Technics, Kenwood, JVC, etc. If the dust cover is in good shape, it’s more likely to have been cared for. I’d avoid p-mount tonearms as replacement cartridges can be harder to find.
Be prepared to buy a new cartridge, or at least a new stylus. The AT-VM95C is an inexpensive new cartridge whose stylus can be easily upgraded in the future.
Don’t forget that an older turntable will require a phonostage. Consider powered speakers that have one integrated, otherwise a separate one will be required. There are many available for less than US$25, as a start.
Be prepared to buy a new cartridge, or at least a new stylus. The AT-VM95C is an inexpensive new cartridge whose stylus can be easily upgraded in the future.
Don’t forget that an older turntable will require a phonostage. Consider powered speakers that have one integrated, otherwise a separate one will be required. There are many available for less than US$25, as a start.
Thackeraye
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I know we are all throwing options at you, but here’s another one!
What they could do is build up in stages - first step is some powered speakers which have streaming/bluetooth and have an AUX in - gives them speakers and a way to play music. Then, if they still want a turntable they can buy one with an inbuilt phono and connect it to the AUX? Saves space with there being no amp.
Joe Mac
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Totally get that. I had my dad’s old discman plugged into a set of £15 grundig powered speakers at uni lol. At that stage it’s more about enjoying the tunes for sure. Good luck with the hunt, used you might be able to get a bit more of bargain.
Ghost
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Anyone wanna give me a crash course on cartridge loading? My Hana SL has been sitting on “1000” since I got it and never really thought to adjust that setting.
Seeing this thread with @Mather has led me to my own tinkering. 200 sounded kinda canned up and 47k sounds kinda nice and open. Are you typically good to just find what sounds good with your cart and let it rock? Can you add too much loading to a cart and damage its internals somehow?
What am I even doing lmao
Seeing this thread with @Mather has led me to my own tinkering. 200 sounded kinda canned up and 47k sounds kinda nice and open. Are you typically good to just find what sounds good with your cart and let it rock? Can you add too much loading to a cart and damage its internals somehow?
What am I even doing lmao
Joe Mac
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Anyone wanna give me a crash course on cartridge loading? My Hana SL has been sitting on “1000” since I got it and never really thought to adjust that setting.
Seeing this thread with @Mather has led me to my own tinkering. 200 sounded kinda canned up and 47k sounds kinda nice and open. Are you typically good to just find what sounds good with your cart and let it rock? Can you add too much loading to a cart and damage its internals somehow?
What am I even doing lmao
No you can’t damage the cart or the system with loading, just alter how it sounds. It’ll never sound great below the minimum but on or above that you can experiment.
SnowmaNick
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Of o remember correctly, Hana just specified a min of 400 Ohms for the SL.Anyone wanna give me a crash course on cartridge loading? My Hana SL has been sitting on “1000” since I got it and never really thought to adjust that setting.
Seeing this thread with @Mather has led me to my own tinkering. 200 sounded kinda canned up and 47k sounds kinda nice and open. Are you typically good to just find what sounds good with your cart and let it rock? Can you add too much loading to a cart and damage its internals somehow?
What am I even doing lmao
Joe Mac
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Yep that’s right.
OMC
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@Joe Mac a little lower impedance than what the cartridge specifies can actually sound quite good adding what some call liquidity to the presentation. Versus a cart set to factory recommended spec, a very slight softening of dynamics can make a slightly aggressive pressing more listenable. Experimentation is the only way to hear it.
I agree with your comment that no damage comes from different load settings.
Angsty
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When I was getting my first MC, the Hana SL, I was really worried about loading with my Sutherland since it didn’t have a 400 ohm setting. I contacted Ron Sutherland and he contacted a couple of his dealers.
Their favorites were all over the map: 100 ohms, 200 ohms and 1000 ohms. He reassured me that it was okay to experiment to find my preference. You can go below the recommended loading safely and you may even find you prefer it there. I settled in at 1000 ohms for my SL.
Joe Mac
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Yeah I did say that there’s nothing unsafe about doing anything with loading. My experience is below sounds appalling but from other comments on here that’s likely cart and system specific. 800 was the sweet spot for the SL for me.
MikeH
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Maybe a silly question, but what’s the benefit of having the pre out? Would you use a different power amplifier?Don’t we all.
I’m going to second @Ghost recommendation of the Kinki Studio amps. I have the EX-M1+. The main difference between the M1+ and M1 is that the + has a Preamp Out and HT Bypass.
When I first connected the Kinki amp it took me a couple of days to adjust to the detail it was throwing down. Once my ears broke in I couldn’t get enough of the clarity, speed and soundstage it puts out.
Joe Mac
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You can and you can also connect subwoofers to as it doesn’t have a separate sub out on it.